So I got a notification that I was banned from r/PornIsMisogyny, (I never commented there) which is a subreddit I just recently learned exists. In case you haven't heard of it, it's basically a subreddit that is so rabidly anti-porn that ISIS would be impressed, and they consider it a best practice to make sure at least 80% of the posts there contain some amount of sexism against men in the comments (and they get all riled up if you point it out). There, you'll learn that, 1. The porn industry writ large is the exact same thing as a massive sex-trafficking ring, 2. all porn is misogyny, including gay porn, and 3. porn CANNOT be misandry. Fun stuff. They also, unsurprisingly, share a large portion of their users with FDS, and are openly supportive of that sub. FYI, I'm not pro-porn, I just think their sub is a little batshit.
Anyway, one of the users there recently created the 153rd feminist subreddit, and was trying to recruit new users. Someone in the comments speculated that the new sub would probably be banned soon, and remarked that, after all, "reddit hates women".
Now hold up. I've seen that phrase before, and it's not anymore true now then it was in the past. It seems that this user is referring to a few radical feminist subreddits, the worst of the worst, worse than FDS if you can imagine that, which were banned or quarantined.
The problem is that I'm preeeeetty sure those subreddits were banned for transphobia, not for misandry. I say this because r/AgainstHateSubreddits, which is vehemently anti-transphobia but doesn't give a shit about misandry, may have had something do with it. To have your sub banned for misandry on Reddit, the majority of your sub's users and mods would have to be openly plotting a terrorist attack against a Boy Scouts den or something like that, and only then it would be banned because it's a legal liability, not because it's wrong. This is important to mention because the implication behind "Reddit hates women" is that Reddit has a male bias, which is patently incorrect. Hell there's a damn default sub named after women's sex chromosomes, and that's a sub so toxic you can be banned permanently just for saying, "men aren't only people who do that, women do that, too", which is how I got banned. There are no default subs made specifically for men.
Now are there subs that contain a fair amount of misogyny? Sure. Are there openly misogynist redditors? Hell, there are quite a few in this sub. However, the idea that "Reddit hates women" is not supported by the preponderance of evidence, whether you're referring to the admins or the majority of the user base. Being seriously misogynist on most subreddits will tax your karma and can often get you banned from them. If you use this phrase unironically, it's probably because you are a self-obsessed victim and/or live in an echo chamber.
...change my mind?
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Why wouldn't it matter? Hentai regularly features incest, rape, underage girls, unrealistic bodies, acts that are painful in real life for women, etc. These are harmful depictions of women. Those are the type of videos the sub is mainly focused on. It's not nothing - these videos are rampant and get millions of views. Young boys are growing up watching these videos.
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I think it is a problem when you're a girl growing up or a woman and you see how objectified and degraded you are in porn in mass. We're taught that we're only our bodies. Thousands of men testify that porn made them see women as objects, so it makes sense that women are seeing themselves that way too. Look at female rap music and the way women objectify themselves on social media. Why we don't take a stand against it, I don't know. I guess this is liberal feminism.
It makes me cry when I think about what's on porn sites and know that millions of men are watching these things. It's not just a fantasy anymore. We're living in a porn culture. It's everywhere. Children should not be growing up seeing these things.
Watching porn will also lead to more perverted fetishes. I don't think it's healthy to entertain rape, incest, pedophilia, etc. in the mind personally, but I can't control what other people think.
I don't really see the connection between cinema and pornography, but I'm very tired right now.
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"Incest (step-whatever, cousin), sleeping girl, drunk girl, bimbo, drilled, choked, painal, got her pregnant, plowed, broke her ass, she cried, creep shots, nasty whore, paid, learns her place, snuck up on her, huge cow, pig, broke asshole, tied up and gangbanged, chains, slave, slapping face, crack whore on drugs, thot, slutted out, fucked mercilessly, chained up glory holes, resistant teen, head in the toilet, spit on"
I could go on and on. You can't say I'm cherry picking here - titles like these are literally everywhere. It's extremely common for porn to feature acts that are physically harmful towards women. Racism runs rampant too.
Knowing that these titles get millions of views and make it onto trending pages every day makes me break down in tears. And these videos are on somewhat moderated platforms like pornhub. We know there are much darker websites.
Reddit is largely a porn website. You can type any word or letter into the search bar and multiple porn subs will come up. Reddit allows thousands of porn videos with titles like these to be shared on it's platform every day. There are porn subs dedicated to misogynistic porn specifically. That's where the r/pornismisogyny is coming from when the say reddit is misogynistic. Thanks to liberal feminism all of this crap is now considered normal, liberating, and "just a kink."
I'm not of the opinion that most of these girls didn't have a choice when choosing to do porn. I wish we talked about holding females more accountable in our anti-porn subs. I also think women are the ones who tend to pornify all social media. These women's actions hurt all women.
If I open up a porn site it feels extremely objectifying to me. All of the focus is on the woman and her body alone. I don't see how it can be seen any other way. Thousands of men who are trying to quit porn will testify that it made them see women only as objects.
It's extremely disheartening to see the number of men that consume porn, especially ones with titles like those. Men overall don't seem to care about how it affects women.
I hate porn culture. I hate that boys are growing up on porn, that it's shaping their minds, and that they're forming addictions.
On a different note, I'll be honest and say that it does make me very insecure as well. I think most women are uncomfortable with their boyfriend's watching porn, but we're told that all men watch porn, that it's normal, and that it's something we have to accept. Well, it's not normal to me to be in a monogamous relationship and him getting off to hundreds of other nude women over the years. It hurts because I have no desire to do that. I don't understand why men can't use their imagination.
I think it's extremely harmful to the relationship as well. There have been studies where part of the man's brain believes he's actually having sex with these women. They form addictions. They get erectile dysfunction. They feel less attraction towards their partner and lose interest in regular intamacy.
Unfortunately, for women who have this boundary (and make it clear upfront), their dating pool is significantly downsized.
Life is lonely.
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