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"MGTOW: the rise of a toxic male separatist movement" - A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, but you still owe feminists sex if they want it.

for_against

August 30, 2020
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Title "MGTOW: the rise of a toxic male separatist movement" - A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle, but you still owe feminists sex if they want it.
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for_against

Upvotes 39
Comments 13
Date August 30, 2020 12:17 AM UTC
(5 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ij3am3/mgtow_the_rise_of_a_toxic_male_separatist/
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Comments

[–]user_miki 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

That article was republished in other mainstream outlets.

They say MGTOW ,men shunning women are "misogynists". Well if they are in their own bubble not political and not marching in the street protesting, no demands, want to be left alone ,why feminists care so much.If I'm "misogynist" at home in front of my computer why do you care so much.MGTOW plan is to stay away from romantic relationships with women, not chasing them .We are not avoiding women , but romantic relationship with them.We are not incels.

They never question the causes of that.

Valid questions:

Me - Why MGTOW are avoiding women?

MSM - Because they are misogynists, they hate women.

Me- Why so many men(according with your piece) are hating women?

MSM -Because they are misogynists.

Any question it ends answering that men are something bad and no way they may have some valid points.Garbage articles.

Anyway, Thank you MSM for advertising.

"-We don't recruit ,We just welcome them as they arrive."

[–]for_against[S] 16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As Amber Heard set out to prove, hell hath no fury like a rejected feminist.

[–]SnooCheesecakes4786 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The article conflates MRAs with MGTOWers with those who have reservations about #metoo. Not very impressive.

[–]RyansPutter 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I love it when normies try to pidgeonhole MRAs. In reality, "MRA" is a pretty broad definition. There are married MRAs, gay MRAs, MGTOW MRAs, MRAs that sleep with a different woman every week, MRAs that have never slept with a woman, female MRAs, etc.

[–]Immastopya 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At least we try to draw lines, I.E honeybadgers, MRA, MRM, Mgtow, but the ENTIRE feminist movement is separated into feminist, radfem, or TERF. Only lines. What, 10 million people. Three classes.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the implication that men owe women access to our space/time/expertise. I hear feminists say "WOMEN DON'T OWE MEN SHIT!" all the time. We also don't owe women anything.

[–]RyansPutter 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That article was so cringeworthy I didn't even finish it. I hate it when the "mainstream" media covers Red Pill-related topics. They get everything completely wrong and they confuse aspects of certain groups with those of others.

[–]RingosTurdFace 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s deliberate.

One thing I did find more interesting (and frustrating) about this article than others is that they listed a lot of the legitimate grievances which are turning men towards these movement.

Yet they don’t investigate a single one.

[–]killerwolfs2000 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

What’s MGTOW? Im new here

[–]PM_me__hard_nipples 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men Going Their Own Way.

Usually boils down to "I was running after you for several blocks only to tell you how much I don't care".

[–]LegendaryEmu1 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wow, what a load of bunk.

This is an edited extract from Men Who Hate Women by Laura Bates, published by Simon & Schuster on 3 September. To order for £14.78 (RRP £16.99)

Well thgat makes some sense...

But i'm not surprised this is on the guardian, men decide to do something, misogyny! I've said it before, I don't agree with MGTOW, but its their choice. As for the not having meetings alone or whatever in businesses, thats actually a seperate issue and it happened after a bunch of guys who were completely innocent of wrongdoing or never actually criminally charged, just socially destroyed by a puclic accusation, happened.

Aside from that person's stats on rape being wrong(since women can't rape men in the UK, guess what, the claim that its 230 times more likely to be raped than falsely accused doesn't work out, it would be much worse), but even then, women aren't charged with false accusations, the actual number we have no idea, a woman did ten false accusations by herself in the uk before she was charged with a crime, that probably only counts as one.

Aside from that, it downplays the issue. the reality is, there are some people, not just women, although they would be the majority in this case, who lie and accuse someone of something. We've seen it happen globally, this can result in vigilante mobs, killing of the accused, being detained for a year, or actually going to jail for like thirty years.

The Irony is women like that will constantly frame every single woman's problem, even if its tiny, or just imaginary(ie, feelings) as a need for change and a social movement, but if men have the audacity to be worried about something, there needs to be tons of articles and books saying how stupid it is.

[–]nyarlathotep999 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I would like to propose that "Leave Her, Johnny" be accepted as a MGTOW anthem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEWS5dGSDOc

[–]Immastopya 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk. People in mgtow have said some sexist a as shit. I.E. "Women shouldn't get tattoos or drink like a man"

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