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[–]jakethegreatwhite 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why my father put up with my mother, because he cared about his kids far more then himself and his happiness
[–]dust-thedust 13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
so, my mom and my dad got divorced when i was about 2yo, almost never i got to see him(mostly on vacations), but i feel rly luck to have a good stap father around 4 yo and 14yo, we are still friends and he's my male model, but i still miss contact with my dad
[–]Thuban 24 points25 points26 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nobody wants to hear it, cause it doesn't fit the preferred narrative. The truth and facts don't matter to those people.
[–]accidental_me 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What are the truths and facts? Hard to say, but we know with absolute certainty that many, many more things than just fatherlessness have a strong correlation with the sad things the figures above describe.
[–]deadalfy 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My father left before I was born. He’s never tried to contact me or my mother, which is odd considering they were engaged. I was jealous of my peers growing up. I didn’t know and just assumed pregnancy was black magic and I just didn’t have a dad. As a male it’s made simple things like shaving, etc very difficult as there was no one to teach me how, and I still cut myself almost every time. Every man should have the right to have a father figure, in fact under the UNCRC it is the right of a child to be brought up by both parents (assuming that is safe for the child.) I seen a post here saying ‘It’s a mans right to walk away from pregnancy’ but it shouldn’t be. Hell, I was even bullied for not having a dad. I wish I had a dad, but I don’t. I’ll stand for men’s rights until the day I die. But if you’ve refused to be a true father to a child, fuck you.
[–]accidental_me 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Correlation doesn't mean causation here. Sure, fatherlessness can have negative effects on some children but it's misleading and immoral to claim that fatherlessness alone causes all the depressing figures above.
[–]RedWolf4711 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My father entered my life later when I was 12 and I couldn't think of a better time for him to be there as my mother had abandoned me. Without my father I wouldn't be the person I am today. We all need a father or a father figure to mold us into the men we need to be. Women can create boys, but only men can create men. Im humbled to say I have a father.
[–]WillieOMacDickerson 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd like to know where and how these stats were compiled. I ALWAYS ask that about anything that includes percentages to make an argument. A lot of this seems to be one publication citing another. Sounds dodgy. Does anybody know?
[–]ZEGEZOT 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sorry, it's tough being trilingual.
[–]LardBall13 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I live in a motherless household. I feel happier now more than I was with my mother.
[–]milehin8tv -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These stats though, are they old enough??!! And citing a talk show??!! Really??!!
[–]dungdungue123 -1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hardly womens fault if their dad is a dead beat that wants nothing to do with parenting his child
[+]Karissa36 -10 points-9 points-8 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
YES, LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
Let's talk about this r/MensRights post, which is just another sorry example of the practically identical posts, which have been posted on this sub at least 3 times a week for at least the last 3 solid years with constant upvotes and agreements by commenters every single time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/hy30n1/if_a_woman_has_the_right_to_chose_to_keep_or/
Let's talk about how one of the MRA's most consistent and frequent talking points is claiming that men should have the right to COMPLETELY ABANDON THEIR CHILDREN with zero legal consequences.
Every time a post like OP's goes up, you all sit around and pretend that for every single mother there is some poor oppressed father prevented from seeing his children by the legal system. No, actually, most of those fathers voluntarily walked away. They did their own kind of paternal surrender. I mean obviously the idea is very popular. You never stop whining about it even though the chance of it ever being passed is less than zero.
So how about you pick a side. These two positions are flatly inconsistent. You don't argue for the rights of fathers to be involved with their children while at the same time arguing for the rights of fathers to abandon their children.
LET'S TALK ABOUT IT.
[–]flyredditguy[S] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Their is no side, and those are two different things. Wonderful deflection your doing though but it won’t work.
[+]Karissa36 -8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, they are not two different things. ALL OF THEM ARE CHILDREN.
[–]ArthurDent4ever 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
We aren’t talking about walking away from children were talking about walking away from fetuses. I do understand if you are pro life though.
[–]Karissa36 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So it's perfectly fine for all of those children in the above chart as long as they were abandoned by their fathers before birth and not after? Is that really your position?
[–]ArthurDent4ever 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Once again, not children. If a man doesn’t want to be a father and leaves while abortion is still an option then the responsibility for the child being born into a single parent house hold, and all of the above issues, fall on the mother who decided to have a child anyway knowing what she was going to be putting that child through.
[–]ZEGEZOT 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Or how about you take your own position instead of just following a group on one side like sheep.
[–]Karissa36 -2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you can't determine just by reading my comment which side I am on then you need to brush up on your reading comprehension skills.
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