Food for thought.

Jakeybaby125 · 2020-05-21T11:34:17+00:00

At least someone has common sense

Fulgurum · 2020-05-21T12:25:53+00:00

I'd also like to add that men aren't a father-figure replacement for women with low self-esteem. If only more people were like this woman!

KOMRADE_DIMITRI · 2020-05-21T12:57:17+00:00

be responsible for yourself and dont expect others to fix your problems

Utterly groundbreaking

GamerEssence · 2020-05-21T12:25:57+00:00

Men are not walking ATMs.

rahsoft · 2020-05-21T12:35:29+00:00

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Empress_Rach · 2020-05-21T12:36:47+00:00

Men tend to also have the instinct to provide and when that can't happen they have depression (in most cases). So that added pressure isn't needed. I for one love my sister in law because of this. She is always supportive of my brother and did take care of him for the longest time. Only straying from it when she had a concussion and has since then worked to fox her mistakes, which is tiring enough when my brother is autistic(trust issues).

So women, like us, need to stand up for men even if we aren't with them. Even if it isn't our orientation. Because unfortunately most men won't stick up for themselves. I.e. a man not sticking up for oneself, not other men.

UbiquitousWobbegong · 2020-05-21T13:12:06+00:00

As a former therapist, I actually disagree somewhat with what she's saying. I know that's unpopular to say, but hear me out.

By no means are you obligated to support or fix your partner. But everyone is flawed. It's really common on Reddit to see comments along the lines of "your partner should be perfect when you meet them, because you can never reasonably expect them to change". I think this is good advice to an extent, but it is one sided.

As I said, everyone is flawed. Sometimes the best thing you can do is find someone whose flaws you can live with. But I've seen couples work out personal issues more effectively together than they would have on their own. It's actually pretty well documented that men especially excel when they are faced with the potential for starting a family.

Sometimes we need help to become more functional people. No one should be obligated to be partners with a dysfunctional person, but sometimes that's a means for improvement.

On the other hand, sometimes it takes hitting rock bottom and losing a partner to trigger improvement. It's not all one way or the other.

Derpalator · 2020-05-21T11:59:38+00:00

Not many women like you. As a man, thanks.

carpbasher · 2020-05-21T15:11:16+00:00

Ironically the badly raised men tend to come from single mothers so maybe they should accept their share of that responsibility aswell.

nixiedust · 2020-05-21T15:01:44+00:00

Both situations happen when we devalue each other as individuals and treat relationships as an excuse to "complete" ourselves rather than love and support our mates.

MBV-09-C · 2020-05-21T12:11:22+00:00

After searching that twitter handle and ones in posts similar to this, I think it's a fair assumption that African women (the actual continent, not the race) grow up with a mindset of "men owe me the princess life" worse than some western countries.

PantsDontHaveAnswers · 2020-05-21T15:13:40+00:00

In short, everyone take personal responsibility.

kiaeej · 2020-05-21T12:02:39+00:00

Yes! So much agreement with this.

LegendaryEmu1 · 2020-05-21T12:38:17+00:00

Holy shit is that a woman saying that? Can't wait for the feminists to attack her.

Chesterlespaul · 2020-05-21T14:21:38+00:00

Unless they believe they are paid less, then to them it seems like it’s easier for us (they aren’t actually paid less btw)

Lethn · 2020-05-21T15:06:21+00:00

A really interesting post ruined by a shitty title.

bay_watch_colorado · 2020-05-21T16:01:03+00:00

Was this not part of the first wave feminist movement? Women should arrive to be capable of providing for themselves and their families?

imiye · 2020-05-21T13:39:40+00:00

Payment for dates/financial support of the relationship I've always baised on who brings in more. It's usually me. It makes some dudes uncomfortable at first but watching their stress over it ease when I explain my mentality is wonderful.

hereforsolidarity · 2020-05-21T13:12:43+00:00

I applaud this woman.

meena1999 · 2020-05-21T16:30:45+00:00

There’s this girl I knew who had dated this one guy for awhile. He had just graduated from college and started working and she’s currently still in college. The bf only lives like 30 min away but they obviously don’t get to see each other everyday cause he has work and she’s on campus. This girl, on the other hand, never took school seriously so she would always skip classes and smoke weed all day. But basically she started cheating on her bf with her ex like very frequently. Like this boy would be over at her place all the time, and her poor bf didn’t know about anything. My friend, who was her roommate, asked her about it and she basically said “Oh no, this is just for fun. I’m not gonna break up with my boyfriend. He’s gonna be successful with a stable job and life so I’d rather stay with him and have my future taken care of”. Like WHAT?

Pecuthegreat · 2020-05-21T16:48:00+00:00

A little caveat I have is that while that shouldn't be the assigned role for men and women, they should still strive to do that for their partner, but this only really stands when both sides are doing what they can to compliment what the other is missing

Whisper · 2020-05-21T19:18:04+00:00

In a similar light, women are not vending machines where you insert kindness coins until sex falls out, and men are not slot machines where you pull the sex handle until you win the commitment jackpot.

chocolateraiin · 2020-05-21T14:49:05+00:00

While this kind of wisdom is unicorn-like

her message can be met with the same answer for why e-girls milk mens wallets on the internet: because it works.

BCRE8TVE · 2020-05-21T17:22:22+00:00

Good thing she said that. If she was a he, he'd have been crucified on the spot.

flyredditguy · 2020-05-21T17:34:36+00:00

My first award, thank you!

BluePillCypher · 2020-05-22T01:46:59+00:00

..Mental munchies

escapadablur · 2020-05-22T02:21:20+00:00

However, "More than 1 in 5 women — 22% — say they wouldn’t date someone who makes less money than them, according to a new survey of 3,000 singles across the U.S. from dating company Plenty of Fish. That’s compared with just 4% of men and 11% of single people overall who said they wouldn’t date someone who makes less money than they do. The same study found 85% of singles tell the truth about how much they make. "
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/many-women-say-they-wont-date-a-man-over-this-one-financial-issue-2017-04-07

stykezero · 2020-05-22T04:12:48+00:00

At times we forget that men and women should coexist together and plan a future together.

Regular-Rain · 2020-05-22T06:44:10+00:00

Thank you for this post. I'm in a bad place right now, dealing with the woman-child in my life. I came here looking for understanding, and found it.

Realistic_bee · 2020-05-22T07:33:58+00:00

Love this!

Iliyas0226 · 2020-05-21T14:08:31+00:00

People are saying this pressure is because of the patriarchy

smfuel87 · 2020-05-21T21:05:31+00:00

What is even more abusive is cleaning a man out in court with alimony and child support and proclaiming that "you don't need men" and you're "Strong and independent". They are literally the least independent or strong class of people on the planet.

Women who do that shit to subsidize their lives are the lowest forms of life on Earth only surpassed in shittieness by the men who enable them to do it and/or shack up with them at the expense of another man.

Chillz71 · 2020-05-21T21:42:21+00:00

Oh this strikes home. My ex-wife divorces me for “irreconcilable differences” and flat out told me it was because I couldn’t give her the life she wanted. She especially would hound me quite often with “You need to get us a house!”

Would drive me right up a wall and eventually I despised her.

Richard_Djent · 2020-05-22T01:26:58+00:00

Lol, or maybe good relationships are you know, relationships, it's almost like they should be mutually beneficial.

I've been married for 13 years, my wife manages the house the children and myself, I provide a means to that end and ensure everything is in working order and everyone's needs are being met.

We're both very happy and often told that they wish they had what we do, yet they all still have retarded expectations and views on what marriage and relationships are.

I love my trad wife and trad lifestyle....,

xoxota99 · 2020-05-21T14:31:55+00:00

I mean, welcome to the institution of marriage since the dawn of civilization, basically.

GDMongorians · 2020-05-21T16:15:23+00:00

Wow this is so spot on!!

Shibacki · 2020-05-21T16:25:01+00:00

She's cool

DukeMaximum · 2020-05-21T16:30:52+00:00

She's a wise woman.

FactsAngerLiars · 2020-05-21T18:45:25+00:00

Amazingly eloquent.

rahsoft · 2020-05-21T19:00:45+00:00

i would add

men are also not rehabilitation centres for badly raised or deliberately self entitled women.

Blaming parents for your bad behaviour is not the answer for every woman or man when you know what you do is wrong..

boy_named_su · 2020-05-21T19:31:03+00:00

vIrTuE SiGnAlIng

C2074579 · 2020-05-21T20:24:27+00:00

Therapeutic

IAmFireAndFireIsMe · 2020-05-21T22:14:14+00:00

I name her Queen

Mafiosa19 · 2020-05-22T00:02:52+00:00

clap clap clap clap

w_ross03 · 2020-05-22T03:27:52+00:00

I'm glad somebody is saying this because men sure as hell can't

keepsitfunky · 2020-05-22T03:43:56+00:00

Can’t find that as a Twitter Handle, can someone help?

Warisdisu · 2020-05-22T05:32:21+00:00

This in a more subtle way is still true. Men should take care of their women and women should give emotional support to their men. Redundant but thought I'd point that out so that there isn't any misunderstanding about thinking we should be the same.

DickRulez · 2020-05-21T13:44:55+00:00

Don't believe it. She is a chameleon like the anti-feminist women. She is saying what you want to hear

nainamaina · 2020-05-21T16:21:09+00:00

So we gonna act like men who like the idea of a housewife don’t exist or???

UnicornQueenFaye · 2020-05-21T21:33:57+00:00

I love this take.

I do want to add that you can find a healthy mix. My husband was a wreck when we first met and married and I was the financial provider. We fought but grew stronger, learned off each other and he became the person I saw behind his hurt eyes.

As we grew stronger from each other his career took off while I put my life on hold to help build him up. Now he’s financially taking care of us while I get my career in order by going back to school to get a degree more suited to where we live now. I know we’re the exception not the rule, but wanted to show that it is possible. I was primarily raise by my father so I’m sure that had an impact.

2020-05-21T16:40:44+00:00

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Sheriff_of_Reddit · 2020-05-21T18:00:27+00:00

Shut the fuck up. Women don’t even want that you stupid misogynistic bastards. Mother fuckers want women to simultaneously be housewives and the bread winner of the family. You fucking basic ass morally inconsistent troglodytes.

Comrade_Dyatlov_ · 2020-05-21T17:10:21+00:00

Lazy women? Yeah raising your own kids instead of having babysitters and day care raise them is lazy smh.

This is the same nonsensical feminists who think men and women have to be the same. A man provides for and protects his family. Why is it suddenly a bad thing to be a man?

If you wanna be one of those guys that splits the bill on dates and stuff fine, you do you. But you’re gonna end up with a very specific kind of a girl.

HighOnLife5132 · 2022-03-29T02:10:38+00:00

Cuz when she leave your ass she gonna leave with half

Kanye

Title	Food for thought.
Author	flyredditguy
Upvotes	6756
Comments	142
Date	May 21, 2020 11:10 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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