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More than 70% of coronavirus deaths in Italy are men

patcomen

March 20, 2020
72 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8135211/More-70-coronavirus-deaths-Italy-men.html
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Title More than 70% of coronavirus deaths in Italy are men
Author

patcomen

Upvotes 72
Comments 28
Date March 20, 2020 5:58 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/flzh9a/more_than_70_of_coronavirus_deaths_in_italy_are/
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Comments

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Testosterone is an immunosuppressant.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s probably more to do with the fact that significantly more men smoke than women in every single country. I read a few articles stating the same. Globally 35% of men smoke compared to 6% of women. Besides the fact that it damages your lungs it fucks to your body in many other ways too. It’s the same for drinking.

There are biological reasons as well but they probably aren’t to blame as much as lifestyle is.

[+]antilopes -17 points-16 points-15 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Also women are better at washing hands and following medical instructions. But mainly it's the Devil's hormone I think. It is heavily involved in men's worse cardiovascular health too.

[–]perplexedm 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It makes women happy though.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women college dorms are found to be filthier (meaning more germs) than men's dorms

[–]TheQuietSky 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Explain

[–]MGTOWPOLITICS 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Big smoking culture, testosterone, and some more

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Europe has not had the same drive as Americans to quit smoking since it is so much apart of culture. All I hope is that from this, Europe will have a greater incentive to quit

[–]Logandanielsboi 8 points9 points10 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Cause men are still out their working

[–]lozinski 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The question is whether the mostly female nurses are giving better care to the female patients than to the male patients. Are the doctors mostly male or female? Who do they favor?

[–]RyansPutter 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In China, the disparity was caused by the fact that most Chinese men smoke, but virtually no women do. In Italy, the smoking gender gap is much, much smaller. I wonder if doctors are prioritizing women.

[–]SurnameFormer 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

Now I support this subreddit wholeheartedly, but I’m not exactly sure what that has to do with men’s rights. Not that I’m saying it doesn’t, but care to explain?

[–]duhhhh 22 points23 points24 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Because of stuff like this posted here yesterday.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-03-18/women-on-the-front-lines-of-covid-19-are-at-high-economic-risk

If men are 70% of those dying, it just shows how selfish men are to shirk their responsibility to support their family. /s

Now, nurses are predominantly women and they are on the front lines right now. They deserve all the help they can get.

[–]FrogTrainer 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Just like war, women are the "primary victims" because they lose their sons, fathers, brothers.

Duh.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Can't be a victimize the deceased

[–]patcomen[S] 10 points11 points12 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is a health issue that situates men in higher mortality rates than women. That's the most important reason. If men's rights involves "social justice," then health conditions and diseases on a gender disparity scale should be considered.

[–]SideJunkie 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Unless they are actively ignoring men over women during this health crisis, I don't agree with that strategy of activism very much. We should fight for good and justice, but no need to make a large deal every time there is a certain statistic that just happens to be more or less biased against men.

[–]patcomen[S] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I see what you're saying - men are actually being taken seriously by our health systems and by media. I guess I'm concerned about how men got here to begin with, and why that isn't more fully explained. I am sure it has to do with the strong data that shows males have a weaker immune system in life and that men (wittingly or unwittingly) take on more risk in life.

[–]SideJunkie 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Interesting.

[–]Oncefa2 14 points15 points16 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

In addition to what duhhhh said there's likely a certain amount of discrimination going on in Italy right now as to who gets treatment.

There's a shortage of things like respirators so only so many people can be treated at one time.

Right now there's already evidence that young people are being favored over old people.

And it would not surprise me if they were favoring women over men.

After all, government medical funding in most counties already discriminates against men. Medicine in general tends to favor women even when we're not in a crisis.

And what's worse is people are far less likely to notice and call out this type of discrimination so these numbers might be the smoking gun that this is happening.

[–]throwlaca 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Right now there's already evidence that young people are being favored over old people.

As it should be.

And it would not surprise me if they were favoring women over men.

According to real videos, most if not all of sicks are men.

[–]JohnKimble111 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And it would not surprise me if they were favoring women over men.

Certainly that would be the case if the UN had any say in the matter.

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't see a smoking gun. The thing smoking is the men, heavily. They fucked up their lungs and their immune system.

Also they don't eat their veggies, don't wash their hands as often, and their bodies are awash in the immunosuppressant testosterone. There is nothing to explain.

If you look at the M/F death and infection sex ratios in various countries and find a big difference between countries, and can't explain it by lifestyle factors, then you might have something.

[–]perplexedm 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

Now I support this subreddit wholeheartedly, but I’m not exactly sure what that has to do with men’s rights.

That is only because you are not thinking enough before putting so much effort to post your useless comment.

Women are treated more preferentially than men, a pandemic affecting men more is not given appropriate seriousness is the reason why the disposable gender is suffering more. Women are more controlling and employable in hospitals and they show their in-group preference.

Think in feminist perspective, not like unaware.

[–]SurnameFormer 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I got that from the other replies. Thanks though.

[+]perplexedm1 points 6 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Now I support this subreddit wholeheartedly, but I’m not exactly sure what that has to do with men’s rights.

^That ^is ^only ^because ^you ^are ^not ^thinking ^enough ^before ^putting ^so ^much ^effort ^to ^post ^your ^useless ^comment.

Women are treated more preferentially than men, deceased affecting men more are not taking with appropriate attention as to why the disposable gender is suffering more.

[–]KnightofNarg 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a double post that is somehow shorter than the other post you made

[–]PlatinumBeetle 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If smoking makes such a big difference then I'm a bit worried for my family since all of them smoke cigarettes, marijuana, or both.

I've tried to get my grandma to quit but she says it's all she gets to enjoy since having a seizure.

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