What are your opinions on women having lower standards than men in the military

mikesteane · 2020-02-28T05:23:20+00:00

It's fine. As long as enemies are going to go easy on them because they're women.

BirdMington · 2020-02-28T05:48:50+00:00

Only a soldier could answer this question who served with a woman in real combat.

What I read from old WW2 reminiscences women who fought alongside men got constant protection. They were treated like a lucky charm that indicated the well-being of the group. They were never given very dangerous tasks and had grunts hovering them all the time.

The question is, could a male soldier trust a female soldier with his life on the battlefield? Can she keep up with the guys? Does she need special treatment, protection, easier tasks? Will a CO treat her differently?

Today's wars are very different from WW1-2 trench wars, especially in modern, well-equipped armies.

Tumblepower1234 · 2020-02-28T07:28:54+00:00

The way I feel about women in the military having lower standards is based on a perspective of if I were a soldier injured in battle. As long as that woman could carry me out to the same standard as a man I don't care. But if I had the choice, I'll take the man that can run further, longer and carry more weight because I want the most increased chance of survival possible. It's not sexism, it's biology....

As a side note, I saw a post of a girl on FB talking about how excited she was to start her firefighter training. Now this girl is DEFINITELY strong and very athletic but they had to make a custom outfit for her because she's like 5'0 and 120lbs and I wouldn't feel safe leaving my rescuing up to her. I'd prefer some 6'0 200 lb dude carrying my ass out of a burning building.

EphemeralWitness · 2020-02-28T07:52:09+00:00

Unless you are up to the standards of the men in the military, get out.

The job of protecting people is very serious. Lives are literally on the line, and there is no room for bruised egos or hurt feelings

2020-02-28T14:28:42+00:00

As a veteran, i think it is not wrong per se to have different baseline standards for service. We already have different standards for men of different ages for example. Having lower standards for women is just accepting that women as a group are less physically fit than men. This is fine when you don't have women in combat roles.

The problem is that this logic breaks down when you open those combat roles up to women. And we don't do a good enough job at setting and enforcing standards for particular jobs. And our leaders seem hell bent on pushing women through these training pipelines into positions they are completely unqualified for, in some asinine attempt to show our progressiveness. And this is saying nothing about the psychological effects of having gender mixed combat units, which is a serious issue and deserves serious study untainted by progressive bias.

Liensis09 · 2020-02-28T05:23:05+00:00

I guess in follows biology? Generally, Women are somewhat physically weaker than men.

iainmf · 2020-02-28T07:04:39+00:00

If you are trying to find people who are capable of a certain task it makes no sense to have a standard that does not match the task.

If you are trying to find the best men and the best women then you would have different standards for each group.

EvilLothar · 2020-02-28T17:52:49+00:00

Just apply to the military as a woman. Then get in with a gut.

eldred2 · 2020-02-28T20:21:12+00:00

If the lower (women's) standard is sufficient for accomplishing the job, then it should be the standard for both. If the higher (men's) standard is necessary for accomplishing the job, then it should be the standard for both. What is required to do the job does not change just because the person doing it has different genitals.

xXmeh_godXx · 2020-03-01T02:23:08+00:00

^{It's fine if enemies are going to go easy on them cuz they're women but they're not going to do that so this just makes women troops less prepared and causes more of them to die}

2020-03-01T03:48:55+00:00

I was in the Army. Age different requirements are one thing regardless of sex.
I think there needs to be a baseline that both can meet but regarding different standards for PT, no.
Same standard goes for MOS. As a Medic, we had to carry the same weapon(M4 usually), ammo count, body armor, and a minimum amount of Medical supplies. Mine Aid Bag(which I still have) was 30lbs and not completely full. The HHC and Infantry unit I was assigned had other Medic platoons from other companies which had male and female medics.
The enemy doesn't care what sex, age, skin color, etc. They just want you dead.

liztu_june · 2020-02-28T07:31:24+00:00

You don't need to be strong to shoot a gun.

Title	What are your opinions on women having lower standards than men in the military
Author	kingof_trollstv
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Comments	21
Date	February 28, 2020 5:17 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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