Violence against women and domestic violence in the Netherlands: a stronger gender perspective is needed

BenJackinoff · 2020-01-20T21:37:15+00:00

This really bothered me. Apparently the approach here in the Netherlands is currently too “neutral”, acknowledging both men and women can be victims. This report is asking us to stop that nonsense and focus on women as the only possible victims again!

tenchineuro · 2020-01-20T23:53:14+00:00

The report explains that gender-neutral policies carry the risk of interventions by professionals that lack gender sensitivity, lead to gaps in protection and support, and contribute to the re-victimisation of women.
The report calls for the introduction of a strong gender perspective in the provision of support services. It is vital to recognise women’s experiences as victims, the underlying power dynamics of domestic abuse and control, women’s dependency on the abuser and the implications for custody of children.

So apparently supporting male DV victims hurts women, so they are adopting the Duluth model, or something similar, even when the assumptions are totally wrong.

iainmf · 2020-01-21T01:46:47+00:00

They are trying to make male victims second class citizens.

They even recognise that men are a significant proportion of victims and that there are specific gender-related issue that affects men's reporting, but they quickly move the goal-post to talk about severity rather than prevalence.

From the report

GREVIO recognises the underlying basis for this policy, including an assumption that violence against men is underreported because of the shame in admitting they are victims and an argument that men are more likely to engage if the policy is gender-neutral. However, such considerations lead to the problematic effect that violence against women is not recognised as a specific, widespread and gender-based form of violence. Even if the assumption that men underreport violence to the same or greater extent than women underreport violence is correct, the prevalence study designed to take into account some of these factors quite clearly shows evidence of the disproportionate impact on women of domestic violence, the difference in types and severity of that violence and that the vast majority of perpetrators (even where the victim is male) are men.¹²

From the study referenced.

The estimates of the prevalence of domestic violence relate entirely to victims of physical and sexual violence106 among the Dutch population aged 18 and older. Research reveals that over a five-year period, about one in 20 adults (5.5%) have experienced some incident involving physical and/or sexual violence in the home setting (Van Eijkern et al., 2018). This concerns 6.2% of women and 4.7% of men. In total, this involves some 747,000 individuals aged 18 and older

Edit: Explicitly stated

It is GREVIO’s view that such policy choices combined with the use of non-gendered terminology in the most relevant policy documents and the absence of reliable gender-disaggregated data in crucial areas have led to the de-gendering of the discourse around violence against women in the Netherlands. This shift results in women’s experiences in seeking help, support and criminal justice for gender-based violence being masked and runs contrary to the obligation of paying particular attention to women victims of gender-based violence as set out in Article 2, paragraph 2. [of the Istanbul Convention]

ausgamer529 · 2020-01-21T00:14:33+00:00

But not for men because we are expected to die in wars and get the shit beaten out of us

Wisemanner · 2020-01-21T00:27:30+00:00

Grevio - the body responsible for "monitoring" the convention has three male members and twelve female ones. Sex equality?

RyansPutter · 2020-01-21T02:53:02+00:00

"A life without violence is every woman's right."

I don't know about the Netherlands, but in the US men are much more likely to be victims of violence than women (everything from murder to simple assault).

Also, since they oppose violence against women, I'm guessing they also oppose women serving in the military.

BirdMington · 2020-01-21T10:41:12+00:00

And then they wonder why MGTOW-like philosophies take root.

If I want to talk to a woman online, it can be taken as cyber-harassment.

If I compliment a woman, I sexually harass her.

If I ask for directions from a woman, it's street harassing (WTF?).

If I touch a female colleague accidentally, I want to force myself on her.

If I see a little girl on the streets alone without parents and ask her why she is alone, I molest her.

If I have consensual sex with a woman, she can revoke that consent later and I can't prove her wrong because of DNA evidence.

Stealing a man's semen from a used condom or lying about birth control is not punished. Poking a hole in condom or lying about using one is considered sexual assault.

The list is miles long. Who needs this shit?

Title	Violence against women and domestic violence in the Netherlands: a stronger gender perspective is needed
Author	BenJackinoff
Upvotes	30
Comments	8
Date	January 20, 2020 9:34 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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