What's with the lack of "red-pilled" queer, trans, and gay men?

Oncefa2 · 2020-01-05T16:39:48+00:00

Some trans people do talk about this.

See:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/local/wp/2018/07/20/feature/crossing-the-divide-do-men-really-have-it-easier-these-transgender-guys-found-the-truth-was-more-complex/

They do think that being a woman is easier. Especially in this article, one of the four trans men they interviewed was black, and he was completely taken aback by how difficult black men have things compared to black women. Like he was almost shot and killed by the police, twice. One time IIRC just for jogging around the neighborhood.

There is one positive aspect of being a man that trans people talk about though, which is that people take you a little more seriously.

Lethn · 2020-01-05T16:46:16+00:00

I disagree completely, some of the people who are most fed up of the way feminist women especially behave are gay men it's just their issues don't revolve around dating and the like the way straight men do.

With gay men the issue is often how women invade their own spaces, take for example gay clubs. Gay men have often brought this up as an issue here and talked about how fed up they are of hen nights especially coming in and ruining their events because they think they can do whatever they want to gay guys and take over.

This attitude has led some feminists to claim that gay men are just as misogynistic as 'cis' men of course they barely touch on this issue because it puts them in a really precarious situation of who they side with, the LGBT community or women.

It's the same thing by the way as the "Islam is right about women signs" feminists don't talk about that and just hope it goes away because if they acknowledge it it means that they'll have to pick between Islam and women's rights and they really don't want to have to do that.

OscarAlexHasEntered · 2020-01-05T20:05:13+00:00

Redpilled tranny here to say hello! Most transmedicalists are also redpilled too.

Fishy_Mc_Fish_Face · 2020-01-06T00:20:09+00:00

Loads of gay men are against mainstream feminist rhetoric. I can’t talk for other groups because I’m not part of those, but most of the time a gay man won’t bring it up because it’s not relevant. I still get jailed twice as long because I’m a man. Being gay doesn’t affect that issue.

ausgamer529 · 2020-01-06T02:13:46+00:00

I'm Bisexual and redpilled... Does that count?

derek20la · 2020-01-06T03:53:16+00:00

I recommend /r/RightwingLGBT Unlike all the other LGBT subreddits, they support free speech, and don't ban users for going against popular opinion.

For a long time, being a gay man insulated me from many of the struggles straight men face -- family courts, sexual harassment claims, etc. The more I learned, the sadder it made me.

Women have an in-group bias favoring other women. Men have an out-group bias favoring women. I always hoped gay men could help advocate for other men, but so many in the community have fully bought into feminism and "wokeness", considering cis males part of an oppressive system.

username2136 · 2020-01-05T18:53:12+00:00

My guess is because the blue pilled individuals aren’t after them. They are constantly after the straight men. They have the hate mob on their side.

2020-01-06T01:14:42+00:00

Wait, can I have link to the "Self-Made Man" thing?

Also, the answer is that the Left claims to be a safe haven for queer people and frames the right as queer-phobic bigots (which the right does have more of, this is technically true).

2020-04-16T23:24:55+00:00

As a trans gay man I think it’s a matter of many of us being socialized with feminist values so it’s hard to stray away from that. Personally it took me about 3 years after I began my transition to start accepting that men do infact have their own challenges. I’ve found that I can’t voice my opinion on certain topics and that there is a stigma against men. I went from worrying about rapists and pedophiles to worrying about being called a rapist and pedophile purely because I’d like to become a father. Honestly it takes a few years to see the issues that men face because your so brainwashed into seeing women as the complete and only victim.

pacsatonifil · 2020-04-24T16:38:48+00:00

We just stay out of it, but I think it’s a lot of us are. Gay men are the number one of LGBTQ hate crime victims according to the FBI, but all you hear is how we need to use the correct pronouns. I grew up watching lesbians hold hands, trans be accepted, but if I did that I would be bullied. By both sexes, and boy do I notice when women scream at straight men and call them gay to humiliate them.

Most of us look like regular joes so we don’t stand out so we hear all the shit. I still get looks when I take my little cousins out. Women still think I’m checking them out. At night when I’m out women still think I’m a scary hetero man. It’s also weird when women check me out or let me know they think I’m good looking. Teach women not to stare.

I think most gay men just hang out with other men. I am friends with some women and they are great friends, but we have such different interests. With women it’s more difficult for me to find a common interest. It’s easier in general to connect to other men even if it’s anime, or baseball cards. So our social circles are mostly men.

My straight male friends struggle with staying out too late, liking an Instagram post, what they eat, what they wear, what they want to buy, it’s crazy. Not all couples obviously. But among men it isn’t taboo to say “your fat ass needs to get a job. And stop eating” I can’t see straight couples being that honest.

I never feel as I can be myself when there is a woman in the room. Maybe it’s my upbringing to be polite in front of women. Straight men need spaces for them. Gay men have that for now, though it’s changing with trans men. That I think will be explosive. My transman friend is the most sexist woman hater I know and it’s so annoying when she comes to gay spaces and talks about crazy stuff and how gay men are horrible for not liking transmen(women). I never thought I would be lectured at pride about how gay men need to sleep with women/transmen. Most of our red pill is trans issues. I would include lesbians in that. There is a hetero-trans movement trying to make us have sex with the opposite sex as something progressive instead of a backwards conversion therapy 2.0.

Most straight women let us be, though so we live and let live. I am nagged by all my female relatives, but family is different. I’m just thankful I have a husband. I’m sure most straight relationships are great too and despite the conflict my straight friends seem very happy. I do get a lot older men and women saying marriage is bad, but they made so many mistakes and were so young. Have a long engagement and let men be men and women be women.

hasegawaryouta · 2020-01-05T16:32:27+00:00

Most such men have female/feminine brains to begin with. They don’t think like straight masculine men, so are predisposed to emotional biases leading to inability and unwillingness to make those connections and to an investment in staying blue pilled.

Not ripping into anyone. Just my opinion.

rodeo_fortuneteller · 2023-03-11T16:42:48+00:00

For many reasons, firstly because queer males are harrassed and abused (by both men and women) into being complacent towards women.

Secondly, is that the ones who refuse to submit, dont want to hear, endlessly, about relationships with women, and have their problems ignored, as it frequently happens.

It is obnoxious.

Title	What's with the lack of "red-pilled" queer, trans, and gay men?
Author	IcyHotRoad
Upvotes	16
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Date	January 5, 2020 4:16 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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