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Toxic Masculinity at Work

CompletelyIncorrect0 · 2019-11-23T08:14:46+00:00

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Title	Toxic Masculinity at Work
Author	CompletelyIncorrect0
Upvotes	200
Comments	33
Date	November 23, 2019 8:14 AM UTC (6 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/e0f3no/toxic_masculinity_at_work/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/toxic-masculinity-at-work.864290 https://theredarchive.com/post/864290

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Women have greater instincts to preserve themselves particularly by avoiding danger. Men have instincts to preserve women and children, even if it means taking on danger for themselves. It's biological, therefore societal norms grew from that biological pressure.

For example, Gibbon monkeys have extremely low sexual dimorphism, there is little difference in the size and strength of males and females. Yet, males are still the only ones to engage in physical warfare between tribes and receive physical damages from it. Because it's the case, as with the vast majority of animals, that females are the limiting factor on reproduction, but male life can be lost without a huge loss to birth rates. It's about ensuring the next generation's numbers can be maintained, not some random totally made up social construct.

[–]problem_redditor 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

Yep, it's the ultimate equation. 10 males + 100 females = 100 offspring, and reversing the numbers means certain disaster.

EDIT: I decided to write more just because. Even among humans we are descended from twice as many women as men, meaning that far more men than women got cut out of the pool by either dying before they were able to reproduce or by being "selected out" because women tend to gravitate towards men with good genes and with higher status and wealth than they do (hypergamy) to ensure the better survival of their offspring, which cuts a lot of males out of the pool.

Losing males doesn't impact our future generation very much at all as males don't have the same cap on their reproductive ability as women do - the biological limit for female mammals is determined by gestation time and length of postpartum suckling. The limit for male mammals, in contrast, is determined by the number of females to which they gain sexual access. So even if there are very few males in the tribe all of the females can still get pregnant.

This very simple principle is what causes male disposability, and it is one of the reasons why males take on the vast majority of difficult, backbreaking and dangerous work in society: so women don't have to.

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