My mother believes that women should be held higher than men

willyj19 · 2019-08-11T05:12:40+00:00

If men stop providing for one day the whole world will shut down.

MrWatcherMan · 2019-08-11T04:39:42+00:00

I think everyone should be treated equally not higher or lower. Because that is the egalitarian way of things.

Daddie0 · 2019-08-11T15:29:36+00:00

I have had similar discussions with female family members, and they never seem to understand the basic point of my stance on men being able to get to a point to defending themselves.

It starts with this, "There is never ever a reason to hit a women." While almost everyone would agree with this statement, I find a few issues with it.

It is a sexist statement. One could argue this point, but IMO it implies that there are reasons it hit men.
IMO, it also implies, and I also have heard some women include on the end of the statement, "regardless of what she is doing to him."

Then as soon as there is a challenge to the statement, there is "He should just walk away!" And giving the situation, this is what most men will do.

Then I ask, "Well what if he does try to walk away, and she just keeps wailing on him?"

The response is usually a repeat of the last statement "He should just walk away!"

Then I inject and ask, "OK, but if she just keeps it up? He is telling her to stop and she does not?" Usually at this point the female I'm having this discussion with becomes very angry, and the discussion goes to shit, and I'm all of a sudden an asshole, and promoting the abuse of women, which I am not. Please bare with this until my final point at the end.

If the discussion does continue, I the next response is, "Then he should grab her arms." My next response is "OK, I agree, if you want to stop getting hit, logical and expected. Let me ask, if you would happen to come across this situation, without any prior knowledge, what would your thought be?" I often get a look like I have three heads at this point. "What is the first thing you think she will start saying or screaming if he grabs her arms?" "LET ME GO! Next thing you know 2 or more White Knights, will come to help her, chances are you are in for an asskicking, adding insult to injury. Another thing is even if some people, male and female have prior knowledge, they will not step in to help him, some will even to stand around watch and laugh.

If I make it to this point ,which is very hard, I leave them with this. "If the expectation is that there is never ever a reason to hit a woman, then what ever gives women a right to hit a men in the first place? Are they not basically attacking someone who is defenseless?" "Why would you provoke / attack someone who could really cause you harm if they decide to engage?" "As a man I sure as hell am not going to provoke another man who is 5 inches taller, and weighs 80lbs more than I do, keep hitting him and not expect him not to lay a finger on me.

This is the main problem, women are taught / brainwashed to think that they have a right to attack men, and nothing should happen to them.

I even have to explain to all of them that I'm not saying beat the shit out of her. As a human right you should have the right to defend yourself. A hard shove, a slap to the face, to bring her back to reality, to stop / defuse the situation.

Free_kittens2468 · 2019-08-11T05:38:15+00:00

Everyone can be a bit retarded sometimes.

perplexedm · 2019-08-11T12:28:39+00:00

All women have in group preference unlike men. It is unthinkable for men those mostly view women with supportive eyes. Deal with it, women always lived a better life in the entire human history at the cost of hardships by men. Now even if women control the world, they will find means to blame men for everything and everyone of them will unite on that point.

Sillimant · 2019-08-11T12:52:53+00:00

If someone hits me, I'm hitting them back. I don't care who it is

mikesteane · 2019-08-11T04:44:17+00:00

Ask her loads of questions until she sees the absurdity of her position.

shit-zen-giggles · 2019-08-11T12:23:00+00:00

I'd taken some ketchup and smeared into the fresh paint. Then leave and let her fix it by herself...

Seriously. Don't let her treat you like that. Assert your boundaries.

MRA-automatron-2kb · 2019-08-11T14:32:10+00:00

Ask her: so if a woman is beating me, you will take her side?

So you are against equality?

Ok nice knowing you, Mom.

SentientReality · 2019-08-11T05:46:37+00:00

Your mother is older than you, and across the spectrum (whether Left or Right) older people have more traditionalist thinking, and the traditional outlook is that women need more protecting and that it's not acceptable to ever hit women. This is not a matter of liberalism or conservatism, it's just a matter of old-school ways of thinking. Lots of younger women nowadays disagree and think that violence should not be perpetuated by any gender.

A quote from an articleby a feminist:

"As girls, we want to be strong, too. [...] but slapping anybody (regardless of gender) is not the way to go about it. That makes abusive, not a feminist."

"Instead of praising these women as strong, we should recognize that their behavior is not acceptable. It isn’t alright for anybody — regardless of gender — to smack someone else in the face just because they insulted you, or broke your heart. It’s not okay on TV, and it’s not okay in real-life."

Title	My mother believes that women should be held higher than men
Author	Le-Shape
Upvotes	28
Comments	34
Date	August 11, 2019 4:38 AM UTC (6 years ago)
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