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More backlash against the idea of gender neutral rape laws in India because "women don't rape men". Indian man shares his story, with proof in text messages, that shows otherwise

HeForeverBleeds

July 25, 2019
389 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.mensdayout.com/in-the-news/male-rape/
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Title More backlash against the idea of gender neutral rape laws in India because "women don't rape men". Indian man shares his story, with proof in text messages, that shows otherwise
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HeForeverBleeds

Upvotes 389
Comments 21
Date July 25, 2019 6:12 PM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/chrc4u/more_backlash_against_the_idea_of_gender_neutral/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/more-backlash-against-the-idea-of-gender-neutral.872658
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[–]tenchineuro 69 points70 points71 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

More backlash against the idea of gender neutral rape laws in India because "women don't rape men".

If it's really true that "women don't rape men", then what would be the problem with making the law gender neutral, no woman would have anything to worry about, would they?

[–]Wisemanner 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Bingo!

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 26 points27 points28 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly! It's just circular reference at this point.

Why do you not accept gender-neutral rape laws? Because women don't rape men.

Why do you think that women can't rape men? Because the legal definition says so.

These fools are destroying the faith that people have on the judiciary.

[–]pete7201 6 points7 points8 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

but but that’s too logical!

[–]vyralinfection 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Now, I don't want to lump all women into one group as is often done to men, and this is purely anecdotal evidence. Having said that I have noticed that women are much more likely to use emotions rather than logic. I work as a mortgage officer, so you can imagine I am very capable in things such as risk analysis, crunching numbers, and time management. I am also able to effectively convey these concepts to my clients.

Looking at the loans I interact with I can say that the ratio of clients that reach out to me is about 50:50 male/female. Looking into who ends up doing business with me the ratio is closer to 80:20 male/female.

The biggest reason for not following through (aside from not qualifying or there being no benefit) is feelings. Either a mismatch of what is possible versus what was hoped for. (I was hoping to save $200 a month, since you can only save me $100 I choose to pay what I'm paying right now)

Or a general feeling that something bad might happen.

With men, I am able to overcome these objections using facts, and figures, and statistics. Women tend to require a feelings based approach. To be coddled, and to be told "it will be okay" or "everyone else is doing it, you should too!"

This is not to say that there's anything wrong with empathy, or feeling warm and fuzzy. If I was better at connecting with that part of my clientele, then I would be able to make my business better, bring the ratio closer to 50:50.

The thing is, numbers don't have feelings. There's no spot in my calculations labeled "mood". Something either makes sense financially or it doesn't. I'm sure that everyone can come up with a whole list of examples where it was a man versus a woman, and the argument boiled down to "this IS right" versus "This FEELS right"

[–]auMatech 27 points28 points29 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"we only want equality when we can benefit from it"

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 6 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Now, tell me again WHY people believe countries like this need feminism instead of actual equality across the board?

[–]lasciate 5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Because they believe that they can make listening to reason more palatable to feminists if they first throw them a bone by sacrificing foreigners or their own past.

"Feminism [was/is] noble and necessary [in the past/in the third world], but it's not something we need in [modern times/the West]. So please stop being retarded [today/over here]."

Spoilers: it doesn't work.

[–]RockmanXX 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Feminism [was/is] noble and necessary [in the past/in the third world], but it's not something we need in [modern times/the West]. So please stop "Radical Feminism" [today/over here]."

This needs to be on the sidebar, man. So many gullible new members on this sub unironically believe this. They need to be reminded of the fact that First Wave Feminists actually went around giving chicken feathers to shame men who refused to enlist themselves for WW1. They were ALWAYS man-haters period.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I honestly dont understand not just feminist(lack of brains) but there are non feminist who support( and A LOT of people) the changes they make.Like women atm have just as equal rights as man,compared to middle century for example when women were raped and burned just because.

[–]lasciate 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

compared to middle century for example when women were raped and burned just because.

Feminism is not the reason for dropping crime rates.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I meant in a sense that they are acting like women are victims of inequality when i think(my opinion) men dont have any specific rights over women.

[–]RockmanXX 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

compared to middle century for example when women were raped and burned just because.

You're acting as if men had any special exception from getting enslaved or dying horrible deaths in the middle century. The average age of man used to be like 30 back in those days.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Never said men werent in a bad spot either.But it made sense at least.

[–]RockmanXX 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You said "Compared to Middle century" as if Men&Women weren't equally suffering.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry i worded poorly.Now they have so much power and are still complaining like pussies.Back then they were in a bad spot.

[–]Lion_amongst_gods 11 points12 points13 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If my understanding is right, the so-called gender-neutral law still won't recognise woman-on-man rape because it still says forced penetration is the crime, but not 'forced to penetrate'.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

it's sad how quickly feminism has spread to India, I thought we would have more resistance, being a poor country and all

[–]RockmanXX 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

India used to be bed-buddies with USSR, remember?

[–]robert-5252 3 points4 points5 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, male rape in India is insane...

[–]Zackorrigan 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Why the fuck do they use this image to illustrate the post?

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