[soaring on /r/politics] Margaret Atwood says it's "a form of slavery to force women to have children they can't afford"

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2019-06-13T11:45:47+00:00

You consented to sex, you consented to parenthood. Stop being an irresponsible deadbeat and raise the kid someone else forced you to have. Even talking about wanting an out makes you a piece of shit. The child's rights matter, yours do not. You had sex, you deserve this.

Fucking toxic masculinity!

..... Oh we're talking about women? Oh they should absolutely have an out. Men don't realize this but being forced to pay for a kid you never wanted is a grave injustice. Her rights should be paramount. Consent to sex is just that, consent to sex. Not to parenthood. Anyone who wants to force women to be parents as punishment for having sex clearly hates women and wants to keep them subordinate to men. This is patriarchy. Fucking toxic masculinity!

SuperPuro · 2019-06-13T11:51:21+00:00

Oh, reeeeaaaaaaaalllllly.

So, I guess I was a slave when my wife intentionally took herself off her birth control, despite the fact we'd had several discussions about how we couldn't afford a child yet and should wait until we had our shit together? I was essentially told I was becoming a father, no ifs ands or buts.

A few hundred thousand dollars of child support later, I'm no longer a slave, but ... come on, Margaret, don't be this obtuse.

furry8 · 2019-06-13T05:53:40+00:00

182 upvotes on policits subreddit after 2 hours because the victims are women....

900 upvotes on twoxchromosomes

No consideration that this has been happening for decades with some men?

DJ-Roukan · 2019-06-13T07:02:07+00:00

if feminist are arguing any point of discrimination toward women, it is something they support against men.

That is all this woman has proven.

obries39 · 2019-06-13T07:22:44+00:00

Slavery is a bit of a strong word. But she makes a good point. Forcing a woman to undergo a pregnancy she doesn't want is kind of like holding her body hostage.

We should all have the right to decide what happens to our bodies.

2019-06-13T06:34:37+00:00

Aside from the outliers of rape and incest, then a woman who has sex risks getting pregnant. Condoms break and women do get pregnant while on birth control.
Find a good man for a husband and plan OR don't have sex. SIMPLE.

2019-06-14T02:06:48+00:00

Id rather have "slavery" than fetacide. Men have had to deal with this forever. I see no problem.

lostapwbm · 2019-06-14T06:13:17+00:00

Texas' long-fought war on abortion access correlates with two trends that bear out Atwood's theory: Since the Lone Star State began purposefully funneling federal money away from abortion providers in 2011...

So personal autonomy and the body are sacrosanct to the scribbler of MUH HANDSIE MAIDS TALE, but she has no issue with taking money from others, you know, the fruit of their labors and bodies, and diverting them to causes they may or may not agree with, and, according to the current feminist narrative, shouldn't even have an (unapproved) opinion on.

That's just a wee bit hypocritical.

They [Texas] should pay for my [a woman's] prenatal care. They should pay for my, otherwise, very expensive delivery, you should pay for my health insurance, you should pay for the upkeep of this child after it is born. That's where the concern seems to cut off with these people. Once you take your first breath, [it's] out the window with you.

So a hard life, a difficult life, a life of struggle, is no life worth having?

Those poor babies, those children born into poverty, they aren't really people. There's no chance that they'll actually better their lives, so killing them is actually a mercy, because then they won't have to suffer, the poor dears.

How very fucking Swiftian of you.

And, it is really a form of slavery to force women to have children that they cannot afford and then to say that they have to raise them.

A dildo or a Hitachi is cheaper than a baby.

Make better financial choices. It is entirely possible to be an epicurean on a budget.

"If you're drafted into the army, the other situation in which the state seizes control of your body, at least you get three meals a day, clothing, and a place to sleep," she said. "So, if you're going to do that to women, pay up."

If your pussy is worthy of public payment, then it is also subject to public policy.

So which is it? Is your pussy everybody's business? Or is it nobody's business?

maverick_3001 · 2019-06-13T06:43:17+00:00

Not slavery but nevertheless a woman should be able to get a abortion if she wants to

etebitan17 · 2019-06-13T06:38:37+00:00

Our society "values" life.. I don't get why these feminists don't understand some people find weird that allowing to kill an innocent child it's ok.. It's like cutting hair for them.. Ffs it's a life.. There will be a debate.. It won't be simple to say what's "right" and what's "wrong"..

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v573v · 2019-06-13T09:45:33+00:00

I agree and I apply that same principal to men which is why I’m here.

Both women and men should not be on the hook to carry costs they can’t afford because they decided to have sex but didn’t decide to be a parent.

SuperPuro · 2019-06-13T15:10:33+00:00

It's their choice.

They can make smarter choices.

Lion_amongst_gods · 2019-06-13T17:38:25+00:00

Anything good happens to women?

Girl power! She did it! Yes, she can!

Anything bad happens to women?

Misogyny, patriarchy, toxic masculinity!

Title	[soaring on /r/politics] Margaret Atwood says it's "a form of slavery to force women to have children they can't afford"
Author	furry8
Upvotes	20
Comments	26
Date	June 13, 2019 5:52 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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