I'm being stingy with my TRP knowledge.

drrrrrr · 2013-12-13T04:58:56+00:00

Thisy is essentially an argument I had with a liberal, but smart professor of mine in college, with me representing the libertarian perspective. Let's say you have a society with a select few understanding how to crack into the 1% and make a shit ton of money. Their objective optimal strategy then is to secure this info and never share it, ensuring they remain at the top, continuing to accumulate.

But then what happens when society becomes a giant shithole? They didn't share their success principles and help other people get to a good medium point (middle income, enough disposable to buy stupid shit), which means that they have no market population to profit from anymore. Warren Buffett can make some money off of a shitty economy, but to make his mega billions, he needs a good economy. So it's in the interests of the top % to share enough success strategies, taxes, handouts, etc to get the hordes of "poor becoming poorer" on the right track. This way, these people start to actually buy shit, have money to put in banks, and whatnot.

I don't know who is right or if it's a combination of the two. But the point is to have a society in which you can make a shit ton of money without needing the help of cronies, you need society as a whole to be decent.

So the question then becomes, is it optimal for us to practice RP in a completely BP world? A world where any rape accusation is treated like an already solved crime and all of our brothers are either paying for CS/alimony, or taught that they are worthless for being bachelors? Is it worth creating a world of 99% beta bucks? I don't know. I mean if you think about it, betas aren't that bad. They put in their 9-5, say yes sir to their boss, contribute their value, go home, buy shit (let their wife buy shit) which funds the economy. Betas aren't horrible for society, they can still be decent people who help our society, since they are led by societal morality rather than individualism. Should we let them plug away at their jobs while guys who "get it" plug away at their pure innocent hypergamous wife? I don't know, I honestly don't.

I think it's important to get this RP info out there and let people do with it what they will. IDGAF if they practice it or hamster it away into nothingness. An optimal world from what I can tell, and this means shit because I'm just one stupid dude, would be a more purple world. We can't all function if we are blood red. It just doesn't work. We can't all function if everyone is beta - we need leaders and people need the direction that alphas provide. In societies full of beta men, the birth rates just plummet. And right now, I think society is too far on the Blue side (obviously). So the optimal solution is not to slap every guy in the face with some book of pook, but rather to have maybe 10-15% of guys shift to a more red/blue area.

Similarly, I don't want all women to become RPW. We need our sluts too, they provide a valuable service. They are essentially betas, working for the good of me and my dick until an alpha female swoops along and replaces them, effortless getting the commitment that they always tried to manipulate out of me. We don't need all girls to play the dating game with intelligence and foresight. I think a 10-15% shift here from feminists, cock carouselers, hypergamous hamsters and whatnot to "RPWs" would be ideal.

So that's basically my philosophy, take it or leave it. I apply this philosphy by sharing TRP ideas with maybe 1 out of 10 of my friends. I don't think you are selfish at all and I don't think you are a bad person, you just have what's called a "Scarcity mindset" and you feel like you own TRP ideas, which is false, but a common mistake. You own your own life experiences and data you have collected, but in reality, the universe operates by these rules. Newton doesn't "own" the law of gravity, and likewise TRP ideas are out there orchestrating the world whether you want to share them or hoard them. So basically, I feel you, but you're self-important. Which is a byproduct of TRP that will pass. Once you apply it and see it's no big deal, just the nature of things which you were un/lucky enough to realize in your twenties, I doubt you will care so much about "hoarding" it.

Politikon · 2013-12-13T02:44:35+00:00

I feel the same way most of the time. Gaining RP is like receiving an insider stock trading tip. You can make yourself wealthy with the tip and if you wanted to, you could put your friends in the loop and they could probably gain from it too; but once too many people are in the know they could make it more difficult for you to profit from it.

RP knowledge is the same way because if more people were accepting of it's tenets, we'd have a lot more competition from reformed beta men and women with equal understanding. And who wants to dilute their own power?

JSploosh · 2013-12-13T04:26:45+00:00

This shit used to be handed down from father to son. You didn't come up with it so it's not yours too keep.

Imagine if everyone who you learned from felt the same way as you. You wouldn't have learned.

The information we preach here is freely available. The truth will come to those ready to find it.

Either way, the manosphere doesn't give a shit if you want to be a snobby hipster about your newfound knowledge. We will still continue to share it with anyone willing to put in the effort.

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Cruising74 · 2013-12-13T09:01:31+00:00

I wouldn't worry too much. People don't change all that easily. Everyone knows that smoking, obesity, gambling, over spending etc are a problem and take away from your quality of life but these things continue.

Manuel_S · 2013-12-13T10:40:25+00:00

All the guys who tell you to think like an entrepreneur, to be your own boss and shit - and I have my own mini-company so I'm walking the walk - do that to look good, knowing full well that:

most people are unable, in terms of intelligence, instincts or willpower to go their own way.
you can't get rich as a manager unless you got employees whose work you can exploit.
it sounds nice, and its safe to say because people won't do it. If they thought people actually would, they'd keep their yap shut tight.

If you're paying your employee 2000 that means he's making at least 3000 for you. You need employees and subordinates to run a company. You need guys that'll work and not be their own entrepreneurs, plotting to steal your clients and leave at every moment.

So - don't malign the betas. We need those guys.

PoopSmearMoustache · 2013-12-13T02:26:13+00:00

The cat is out of the bag with TRP, it won't stay underground because you can't stop those who understand it from expanding their knowledge greatly then teaching it to help stay on top of their game unafraid of improving the competition.

Skills for analysing situations simply are perishable and have to be regularly tested in a dynamic environment to stay relevant (think of the transition from boxing to MMA octagon competition), going out and learning new offensive/defensive moves and coaching them is the additional skill-set that prevents athletes from retiring into obscurity.

[deleted] · 2013-12-13T06:19:26+00:00

As a MGTOW, I see it beneficial to spread red pill knowledge. Regardless of age group.

Red pill becomes a lot more applicable as you grow older. You and I should be thankful for receiving this knowledge in our mid-20s. It's not too early so we could learn from our mistakes (and laugh about it), but we're also afforded some time.

mordanus · 2013-12-13T07:53:37+00:00

You SHOULD be stingy with it. The times that I've tried to share trp knowledge is like trying to share gold with people and having them look like I just handed them a pile of shit. People can not accept trp until they have had enough real life experiences that will help prove it to themselves.

You can't drag an alcoholic to an AA meeting and expect it to save him.

BIG_Daddy_Government · 2013-12-13T14:36:51+00:00

im hoping reddit admins shut down this subreddit. not because i find whats written here misogynistic or wrong, but because i don't want whiteknights to change. Because of whiteknights, it makes my RP way of life 10x easier when dealing with and only with women.

bobbyontario · 2013-12-13T16:57:42+00:00

I spent so much of my life suffering as a BP beta that I can't help but offer RPs to guys who I interact with; I give RP credit for so many changes in my life, and am not going to hide that. The bites are usually subtle, like calling the outcome of a situation or holding my frame when I go talk with a hot chick (compared to a year ago, that is magic). The threat of more competition? bring it.

roadywan · 2013-12-13T18:12:55+00:00

There are those with the maturity levels to handle the "power" and wield it properly...and there are those that would destroy themselves and those around them.

It's the same reason the nuclear super powers don't hand out the technology to those who haven't been able to develop it themselves, they didn't learn it, didn't earn it, and won't respect it.

ajswdf · 2013-12-13T02:56:23+00:00

When a man is able to have sex with attractive women easily, he raises his standards. Why would I bang a 3 if I could land a 8? Naturally, the more men who follow TRP advise and can land more attractive women, the worse it will be for ugly women. It sucks for naturally ugly women, but would encourage fat women to lose weight, otherwise they won't be able to get laid.

[deleted] · 2013-12-13T04:26:42+00:00

I don't care if other people know about TRP. If I think someone who is struggling would absorb it well, I definitely try to guide them. This includes some of my best friends who I go out with all the time. I want them to be of high SMV.

Why? I love being around other people of high value. If people who are high SMV display that I'm cool with them, then girls assume I must be of high SMV as well. Don't get me wrong, it can be a drag being with 3 other "alphas" and 1 hot girl. However, this is RARELY the case. I still love surrounding myself around other alphas because if none of us get any pussy, we still have a great fucking time. And at the end of the day, I don't give a fuck whether I get laid or not.

Title	I'm being stingy with my TRP knowledge.
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Date	December 13, 2013 12:57 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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