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Brisbane woman jailed for nine years over husband's fatal stabbing | Woman, who was a regular domestic abuser, stabbed her husband in the heart. Sentenced to 9 years, will probably be out in 4. This is the 50% of domestic violence that is rarely talked about: female perpetrators.

EricAllonde

March 19, 2019
364 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-03-19/katie-anne-castel-pleads-guilty-to-manslaughter-husband-stabbing/10916264
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Title Brisbane woman jailed for nine years over husband's fatal stabbing | Woman, who was a regular domestic abuser, stabbed her husband in the heart. Sentenced to 9 years, will probably be out in 4. This is the 50% of domestic violence that is rarely talked about: female perpetrators.
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EricAllonde

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Date March 19, 2019 1:09 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
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[–]EricAllonde[S] 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

What I'd like to know, but isn't discussed in any of the media coverage of this trial that I've seen, is: Did the husband go to the police for help with his wife's violence and did they laugh at him for that?

We hear of that happening so often, I wonder how many times it ends in a tragedy like this?

In a victim impact statement read to the court by the prosecutor, the victim's father Anthony Castel said his son's killing had created "relentless stress" for the family.

"Her actions killed him — we suffered the loss of our vibrant, kind and caring son," Mr Castel said.

"But from Katie I hear no remorse, except for herself."

and

During sentencing, Justice Jean Dalton said Ms Castel wrote her husband's family a "peculiar" 12-page letter from custody, which expressed remorse in the first two pages.

"The letter [then] complains about your own circumstances in jail and the watchhouse," she said.

The judge said it led her to doubt the defendant understood the consequences of her actions.

Hmmm.

[–]tenchineuro 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

The judge said it led her to doubt the defendant understood the consequences of her actions.

That's because for women, there are usually no consequences or minimal consequences.

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Narcissistic personality disorder is written all over this.

[–]tenchineuro 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Brisbane woman jailed for nine years over husband's fatal stabbing

What an interesting way to say murder.

[–]antilopes 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The article explained why she was not charged with murder - intention to kill was not proved. If she had been charged with murder she would have been found not guilty.

Australia is relatively lax in its description of murder. In some other jurisdictions Murder typically requires forward planning, so a stab in the middle of a fight would not count as murder unless it could be proved that it was intended or at least reckless about causing death.

Innocent unless proved guilty.

[–]tenchineuro 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The article explained why she was not charged with murder - intention to kill was not proved. If she had been charged with murder she would have been found not guilty.

The wording suggests that it was something that happened to her husband, 'over husband's fatal stabbing' rather than as something she did to him. It was not an act of nature and even if true (can a knife thrown by an amateur actually penetrate the rib cage?) she was still the agent of his death.

Innocent unless proved guilty.

She pled guilty. She admitted her guilt, there was no trial.

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

It happens that my favourite kitchen knife could easily penetrate 4cm if thrown, but maybe one in 20 or 50 throws would arrive at the right place and angle to penetrate far. And few people are as obsessive about sharpening their knives as me.

Four cm is not much to penetrate a heart fatally though, that suggests it was very sharp.

I doubt it was thrown. That seems more like a ploy to avoid responsibility for stabbing a particularly dangerous part, and thus the recklessness about death that would might enable a charge of murder.

I don't think there is official plea bargaining in Australia. There is informal bargaining though, where the cops quietly suggest a reduced charge would be suitable if they can get a guilty plea.
I think it is illegal for them to make a promise but it does happen. The accused then has to trust the cops to keep to their side of the bargain.

She plead guilty to manslaughter, which means she was the cause of death but did not have intention to kill.

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It happens that my favourite kitchen knife could easily penetrate 4cm if thrown, but maybe one in 20 or 50 throws would arrive at the right place and angle to penetrate far.

You're missing the point, the heart is protected by the rib cage, could your throw (if successful) penetrate bone? But the low chances of success are another issue.

Now how far is it from the front surface of the heart to the chest? The best answer I can find is that for an adult male, about 2". Four cm is about 1.5", and that's through the rib-cage. So we have an improbable throw that would not penetrate to the heart. Had she stabbed him I'd say her chances of success would be much higher. YMMV.

I doubt it was thrown. That seems more like a ploy to avoid responsibility for stabbing a particularly dangerous part, and thus the recklessness about death that would might enable a charge of murder.

OK, we seem to be looking at this in the same light.

[–]tenchineuro 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This was just posted...

  • https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/woman-admits-killing-husband-throwing-14160573.amp?

  • Castel, mother to the couple's five-year-old son, was initially charged with murder before accepting a plea of manslaughter in a domestic violence context.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Reminder: according to Duluth she was the victim here. Women can only be violent in self defense. So if she stabbed him he was clearly abusing her and forced her to defend herself. So according to feminist doctrine this is a woman being falsely imprisoned for being the victim of an abusive man.

Feminism is for men too!

[–]ocean_big 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And they wonder why MGTOW is growing🤔

[–]14b755fe39 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I just love your comments on this sub, they are always interesting and insightful, big fan.

Nice job tearing them a new one btw.

[–]Seagram1 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Reversed and he would get life. Down with the double standard

[–]Greg_W_Allan 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In Australia there would be prime time emotional outpourings from feminist media darlings and every male older than 24 hours would be deemed responsible.

[–]antilopes -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

No, you don't get life for manslaughter. It is not a double standard, this is a typical sentence. US sentences are often roughly double Australasian sentences, is my impression.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

the man would be sentenced for worse than manslaughter is what hes saying.

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[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That doesn't work. You can't get more than manslaughter out of these facts. Murder charge = not guilty and can't be retried.

[–]NecroHexr 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol wtf, beating someone up and then murdering him is 9 years? Fuck the what?

[–]Vuraxis 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

9 years? For murder? Jesus Christ, this isn't a justice system.

[–]antilopes 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

It isn't murder it is manslaughter, a lesser charge because intention to kill is not present.
And it is not the US with its love of harsh punishment and crazy prison-industrial system.
Nine years for manslaughter looks like a normal sentence to me. Opportunity for parole at 50% or a bit more is normal too.

She won't necessarily get parole. This has a very strong smell of narcissistic personality disorder about it, and NPD is not curable even if the person complies with treatment, which is highly unlikely:

Justice Jean Dalton said Ms Castel wrote her husband's family a "peculiar" 12-page letter from custody, which expressed remorse in the first two pages.
"The letter [then] complains about your own circumstances in jail and the watchhouse," she said. The judge said it led her to doubt the defendant understood the consequences of her actions. "It was extraordinary violence out of all proportion," she said. Justice Dalton said she would not make a recommendation about Ms Castel's parole.

[–]Jackson2615 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The Australian "justice" system if soft at the best of times and especially when it comes to women.

[–]Jackson2615 -1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just read the article as expected the Judge was a woman..........................say no more ……………………..

During sentencing, Justice Jean Dalton said Ms Castel wrote her husband's family a "peculiar" 12-page letter from custody, which expressed remorse in the first two pages.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

No big deal she will be out on four years and Hollywood will make a movie about the whole killing and she will be hailed as a hero and victim. Her dead husband will be blamed for it all.

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