BBC: Our World - What's Killing Americas White Men? (2018)

Lethn · 2018-10-15T15:35:05+00:00

I'm trying to watch this but it is difficult, not because of the subject, because of the way the presenter is trying to frame this. I know on the surface it doesn't look like that but notice how she doesn't actually ask the questions of them of 'why' she acts like she already knows and asks questions that coincide with her beliefs about men.

I shouldn't be surprised because this is the BBC but the way she did this documentary really fucking irked me. For those who still don't get what I'm on about let me do some quoting for you.

"He was standoffish"

"Do men talk about their problems?"

"That's part of your identity and somebody suddenly tears the tag off" ( At the halfway point she starts finding people who will back up her narrative )

So in the minds of people at the BBC, it has nothing to do with feminism, nothing to do with the way marriage works, how men are being attacked in the media, false accusations, family courts.

It's the following:

. Toxic Masculinity ( She, like many others tries to make it out their problems are due to them not being able to speak up about their issues )

. Economy and the stress of not being able to provide

The dumb fucking thing about all of this is even by their own standards, feminists and the left are absolutely useless at fixing any of these problems. When men talk about their feelings and what actually goes on in their lives women like her are the first to dismiss it. She says she's going to try and find out what's behind the statistics and why men try to kill themselves and she spends the first ten minutes playing in a fucking camp for girls and only getting their perspective.

They also do nothing to help the working class and frequently go around calling white men, especially white working class men racists, simply for voting the other way. They offer no policies to help men specifically, claiming it's sexist to do so because women are historically oppressed and then when anybody tries to do something like create a men's shelter even privately funded they practically chase them out of town. Ironically, I remember one case where there was a guy who tried setting up a men's shelter and he ended up committing suicide so that's an example of this type of thinking towards men being the 'enemy' being a direct cause of a suicide.

The fact that she interviewed somebody talking about 'identity' was pretty interesting as well, another narrative going around the left wing and feminist circles is this very unsympathetic and nasty view that men can't 'stand' there being equality in the world and they don't like being unseated from their positions of power within society. They claim that because we live in an equal society it's just men being essentially butthurt that women are taking over which couldn't be further from the truth.

Oh and of course finally yep, that was the last straw, she goes on about guns, insinuating hurr durr it's the guns' fault that men can kill themselves, this documentary really got on my nerves.

This was a really lengthy reply but I thought that since this documentary was fairly long it deserved it but it was amazing how much wishy washy bollocks and general waffling there was that we're used to seeing from these die-hard feminists and only ever talking about serious issues when it comes to women was in this documentary. I encourage people to watch this documentary and compare it to Cassie Jaye's Red Pill documentary as it's a good example of not only why Cassie Jaye has received so much support for her work but it demonstrates why things have gotten so bad for men in the western world.

To understand why I'm so annoyed by this documentary, this is somebody who works for the BBC. She's not some random left wing blogger or a guardian journalist hack who I'd totally expect this sort of documentary from she is somebody from one of the largest most influential news organisations in the world and she reduced male suicide to three vague and childish summaries of: Men can't talk about their feelings, economy, guns.

She has been completely outclassed by Cassie Jaye.

ExpendableOne · 2018-10-15T17:21:30+00:00

"there is no single reason for the growing rate of male suicide"

The reasons are all pretty clear and well-defined, it's a systematic and cultural problem in how men are treated. It's just not something society really wants to address or make any effort to change. Kind of like the raising threat of global warming, people know what they need to do and change for things to get better, they just don't want to do it or can't be bothered. This is why the response you get from these types of issues is low-effort, erroneously optimistic bullshit like "just go talk to somebody". That doesn't fix the problem any more than a well-intended facebook trend about global warming would.

2018-10-15T21:11:10+00:00

What's Killing Americas White Men?

Racism (towards them), indifference, apathy and hostility (towards them)

/end thread

ifelsedowhile · 2018-10-15T18:02:41+00:00

White males have more responsibilities than black and hispanic ones because they are more middle or middle-upper class.

Title	BBC: Our World - What's Killing Americas White Men? (2018)
Author	thwawayparseymcparse
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Date	October 15, 2018 2:53 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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