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[–]chomponthebit 17 points18 points19 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How do “women suffer more behind bars”?
[–]Sasha_ 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because men are given what they 'deserve', women want to be given what they desire.
[–]xNOM 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's inhumane to send children to prison.
[–]DoctorKnockboots 3 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Men are given all the best feminine napkins and disposable douches, and women are left to fend for themselves. Total patriarchy.
[–]Corvo9393 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish I knew. The things Australia does to men, on the outside of the system,(forced alimony and child support).... Let alone the inside.
[–][deleted] 16 points17 points18 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So the don't want equality now?
[–]Wisemanner 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Never did! Just to cherry pick.
[–]grandmasbroach 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How do they not see the hypocrisy? They say in one part that the judges are delivering equality with a vengeance. Then, in the next paragraph, literally states that there should be a distinction between men and women when it comes to sentencing. So, they want equality, get it, and now want to get lighter sentencing for the same crimes because equality? Is it fucking opposite day? Those are directly opposing statements and ideas.
[–]Mode1961 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess it is true what they say
"When your whole life has been full of privilege then equality really does seem like oppression"
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"sentencing guidelines do not allow for a distinction between male and female offenders". Yes- that is the equality thingy you have been bitching about since forever.
[–]goodmod[M] [score hidden] 7 years ago stickied comment (4 children) | Copy Link
Is there a link to the source for this?
It appears to be from Sydney's Daily Telegraph newspaper, published some time after 2017.
[–]Clemicus 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Seems Jack Houghton was hired recently by the Daily Telegraph. His articles on there are from the 9th of this month.
It's possible it's under a different title on their website. Found this article from three days ago:
Rise of women arrested for crime ‘sexist’: lecturer JOURNAL A SYDNEY law lecturer and a feminist lawyer have blamed sexist cops and judicial officers for the rise in women being arrested for violent crimes. 11/09/2018 https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/university-lecturer-blames-police-judges-for-rise-in-women-being-arrested/news-story/5c6f0794a78b0f34ad3525c29f8c9925
Rise of women arrested for crime ‘sexist’: lecturer
JOURNAL A SYDNEY law lecturer and a feminist lawyer have blamed sexist cops and judicial officers for the rise in women being arrested for violent crimes.
11/09/2018
https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/university-lecturer-blames-police-judges-for-rise-in-women-being-arrested/news-story/5c6f0794a78b0f34ad3525c29f8c9925
The article is pay walled, so I can't check the content.
Edit: link to his articles: https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/journalists/jack-houghton
[–]goodmod 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good sleuthing!
[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
For the privileged party loss of marginal reduction in privilege feels like oppression.
[–]Clemicus 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
The author got information from a biased source, who run a biased service. If they went by justice figures alone, it'd have painted a completely different picture. Objectiveness from subjectiveness.
"My feelings tell me I'm oppressed. This is factual because I say so."
Edit: they didn't quantify the claim that there's been an increase. It's based on remand figures alone, not custodial sentences, community service, fines, or... (can't freaking remember the rest of the outcomes). Remand is basically a mixture of awaiting trial and awaiting sentencing. So bundling those figures together doesn't mean more have been found guilty. Just that there's been more waiting for trials and awaiting to be sentenced.
It could just mean more women are remanded in custody until the trial date due to various reasons (severity of the alleged crime). It's a terrible way to calculate any statistics. All it does is produce dubious claims.
Edit: whoa...
[–]XenoX101 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How would a recent trend of "Increasing five times faster than male figures" be a result of "pervasive systemic gender bias"? If it is systemic then it obviously won't be the cause of a recent up-tick. And if gender bias is a bad thing, why are they trying to bias in favour of women, such as in "women have lower reoffending rates" and "[women have] increased suffering in custody" (which is almost certainly BS considering that more men are raped in prison than women in and outside of prison combined (source))? If they claim gender bias is a bad thing, then they cannot use gender biasing arguments; this should be obvious. I'm also not sure how this fits in with the "Women are strong and brave" narrative, since they're suggesting women aren't able to handle or deal with jail as well as men. The question then is, can women handle the same standards as men? And if not, then they need to stop expecting equality of outcome (separate from equality of opportunity) in related areas (e.g. performance in stressful jobs).
[–]SomePerson111222333 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well, everyone with a brain knows that there would big feminists, not just a few cranks, but people with actual influence who would scream their brains out if Women actually got canned for anything.
Though I do like how the article raises such a stink for the massive rise in the rate in which women are charged with DV, its almost like they weren't really being charged for it beforehand. Also as many here have noted if this is because "pervasive gender discrimination and bias" why has it waited all these years now to manifest? Why weren't only women and no men going to jail for DV decades ago if this current situation was a result of discrimination?
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