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Serena Williams is calling out sexism in tennis. Here's why. oops- they left out the part about getting the same money for best of 3 vs best of 5.

spy9911

September 9, 2018
91 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/09/us/serena-williams-sexism-tennis-controversy/index.html
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Title Serena Williams is calling out sexism in tennis. Here's why. oops- they left out the part about getting the same money for best of 3 vs best of 5.
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spy9911

Upvotes 91
Comments 17
Date September 9, 2018 1:09 PM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/9ecuav/serena_williams_is_calling_out_sexism_in_tennis/
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Comments

[–]pabibismo 31 points32 points33 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I’m no expert in tennis rules and regulations but as far as I can read, she was given a warning (coaching), deducted a point for smashing the racket and deducted a game for abuse to the umpire. Isn’t that a perfectly understandable course of action?

The fact here is that yet another male professional’s career is going down the drain as the masses call him both sexist and racist for doing his job.

Fight the instances where rules are bent to favor an individual, not those where they are applied correctly.

[–]5th_Law_of_Robotics 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes but she is an empowered black goddess. It's offensive to treat her as a mere equal.

[–]ppanthero 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, absolutely normal procedure.

[–][deleted] 19 points20 points21 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"We know that there's quite a history to it. Think of John McEnroe, think of Ilie Nastase, Jimmy Connors, Andre Agassi.

McEnroe retired 24 years ago. Nastase retired 33 years ago, Connors retired 22 years ago. Agasi retired 12 years ago.

So is she's saying that the problem of abuse of officials is a solved problem now and she's being treated like any other player today?

[–]ppanthero 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The thing is - McEnroe got disqualified more than once and all of the above got points deducted multiple times. But now its sexism...

[–]Consilio_et_Animis 22 points23 points24 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Good analysis of why the umpire was totally justified here:

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/tennis/it-is-serena-williams-who-owes-an-apology-to-umpire-carlos-ramos-20180909-p502q2.htmle

[–]McFeely_Smackup 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How frustrating for her, getting called out on the "you're only doing this because I'm a woman" excuse when it's worked so many times before.

They're clearly not letting her blame it on sexism only because she's a woman.

[–]Crypttid 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She's basically saying "I abuse the umpire and get a penalty, but I'm pretty sure that wouldn't be the case if a man abused the umpire"

[–]OnTheSlope 2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Williams is an idiot and way in the wrong, but this part of the article:

French tennis player Alize Cornet received a code violation a few weeks ago for briefly taking off her shirt on the court.

is fucking ridiculous

[–]redavid 1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

It's not like women haven't said they'd play best-of-5 to shut down this dumb argument.

And are you going to start advocating that other tournaments where women and men both play best-of-3 should start awarding equal prize money (The Italian Open, Rogers Cup and Western and Southern Open all award men twice as much prize money as women)? I doubt it.

[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

The reason they do is to attract men to play in the tournaments. Wimbledon forces you to buy the women's tickets if you want the men's. Lets be honest- men's matches are way better.

[–]redavid 4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wimbledon, and most other joint events, sell tickets by 'sessions' (day or night), you're not buying tickets to individual matches because there's just not a feasible way to do that when you have so many matches and so many courts.

And honestly, in recent years, women's tennis has been far more interesting. When two of the big 3 (Federer, Nadal, Djokovic) are playing each other, men's tennis is great, otherwise it's often way too predictable and it's a struggle watching the early rounds of a tournament.

[–]marauderp 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

women's tennis has been far more interesting

Only if you find inferior play to be interesting.

[–]redavid 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Spoken like someone who hasn't watched women's tennis.

[–]marauderp 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And are you going to start advocating that other tournaments where women and men both play best-of-3 should start awarding equal prize money

No, for the same reason: women's sports aren't as popular, which means they don't attract as many viewers, which means their sponsorship is less than men's sports.

They don't earn the money, they don't deserve to be paid the same. End of story.

[–]thrway_1000 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Archive -- https://archive.is/6Tb4J

[–]sovereignbiopolitic 0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

http://larrybrownsports.com/tennis/umpire-carlos-ramos-history-code-violations-serena-williams/463180

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