Women’s self-harm is being fuelled by misogyny | The Guardian [Male suicide obviously doesn't matter]

ForAndAgainst · 2018-08-31T04:10:42+00:00

“Men know who their enemies are: they’re gangs, the police, their enemy in war. Women tend to be abused by those who say ‘I love you’, so it’s very crazy-making."

Irony is dead.

Ultramegasaurus · 2018-08-31T12:36:21+00:00

Men are ridiculed for their height, stature, penis size, voice pitch, bone structure, balding and tons of other genetic shit that can only be fixed by expensive surgery or not at all. Meanwhile women's biggest aesthetic issue is choosing to be fat. And even being fat does not stop them from having sex and relationships available on tap in the age of online dating.

I seriously don't get how this society can seriously tell everyone women are subject to insane beauty standards while men can look like whatever they want. Try being a short, balding man with a recessed chin.

TheMythof_Feminism · 2018-08-31T08:27:08+00:00

The Guardian

Well this article is going to be complete garbage....

the news that a quarter of girls are self-harming – nearly four times as many as boys

That's correct.

I am uncertain if it is the same everywhere, but here in Mexico the type of woman that "self harms" is just doing it for attention and never does any harm that could be considered significant.

When men "self harm" it is almost always extremely dangerous.... for example, a friend of mine lost his job and his girlfriend, he bought a bottle of whiskey, walked along the beach taking swigs every now and then, and passed out. He got robbed while unconscious and "hit his head" when he fell [He had some pretty bad bruises, I was surprised there were no broken bones... I think he got in a fight]. In any case he was lucky that something worse didn't happen.

When I asked what the fuck he was thinking/why he hurt himself so bad? he said he didn't care, and he wanted to fuck himself up, he was intentionally being self-destructive and it had pretty bad consequences, he bounced back eventually but he could have easily died in several ways.

It is my observation that women almost never engage in actual self-destructive/self-harming behavior in a sincere way.

It is not inevitable that girls will harm themselves more than boys. It simply cannot be separated from the way women and men are generally socialised.

Sigh.

I dislike having to invoke it because I know it is an extremely unpopular thing to bring up here but; The above quoted is a textbook tabula rasa [The blank slate hypothesis] argument..... the idea that men and women aren't different because we're a sexually dimorphic species with different physical and psychological traits inherent to each sex, no, it's because "men and women are SOCIALIZED/PROGRAMMED BY SOCIETY to be different".

It's complete and utter nonsense , in this case it is nonsense to the extreme.

Women, in general, are taught to hurt themselves in a multitude of ways: by hating their bodies

/facepalm

I know of at least 2 very big, long-standing movements that are entirely about women "accepting their body", one is the obesity acceptance movement and the other is just a general "body acceptance" (without obesity) movement.

These have been going on for awhile and they have become surprisingly more successful than I thought they'd be.

.... how many of these exist for men? oh yeah none, because we don't blame delusional nonsense for things we do. It's called personal responsibility.

The survey also found that over a quarter of children consistently hear jokes ...

Stopped reading right there, at the point where the author starts implying that we need to regulate jokes on the basis of tabula rasa, I dismiss them as being either propagandist trash or some cunt suffering from delusional psychosis, trying to somehow blame men for problems they are completely separated from, fuck that.

Lupinfujiko · 2018-08-31T15:10:47+00:00

It's always amazing to me. If you say the opposite - that more men commit suicide - it's either met with complete indifference, or with anger and attacks of "misogyny".

How is it "misogyny" for pointing out more men commit suicide?

Title	Women’s self-harm is being fuelled by misogyny \| The Guardian [Male suicide obviously doesn't matter]
Author	ForAndAgainst
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Comments	13
Date	August 31, 2018 4:08 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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