Teen dating violence is down, but boys still report more violence than girls

slotpop · 2018-08-30T05:09:22+00:00

Totally shocking, it's as if gender really has nothing to do with the human condition when it comes to violence. It's...like...wow...yeah...people are trash, not just men.

Evildl17 · 2018-08-30T11:16:38+00:00

Looking at the mainstream cross post of this, I would say its fairly encouraging that the way this is getting viewed as now is significantly less gendered. It seems this is one fight we are starting to win. If only we could get more shelters...

2018-08-30T13:37:31+00:00

“It could be that it’s still socially acceptable for girls to hit or slap boys in dating relationships.”

BINGO!

mlittman · 2018-08-30T05:59:53+00:00

The normies stick their fingers in the ears and say nah nah nah nah nah this can't be true this can't be true this must be fake news meanwhile if their daughter slapped a boy they would not care

svenskbitch · 2018-08-30T09:25:48+00:00

The findings surprise even me, as boys have to, by any logic, be less prone to reporting light violence than girls. Even if you ask specific questions, boys are much more likely to downplay or even forget a slap or a shove.

To some extent, of course, this is because it is probably more threatening for a girl to be slapped by someone much stronger than the other way around. Not only because of physical strength, but because a boy who does so must first lose a range of societal inhibitions, whereas girls, who have never been taught not to hit a boy, might do it to express much lighter levels of frustration.

The problem is, we are not talking openly, let alone researching well, any of those two aspects - nor the interrelations between them (such as if and how light violence by girls might prompt boys to lose those inhibitions and even respond with severe violence). Nor are we talking about psychological violence, which, I think, girls exercise more than boys - but then again, I am much more interested in finding out more than about finding ways to confirm my prejudices.

That feminism, or the progressive left more broadly, focuses on girls as victims is one thing. The thornier issue, I think, is that the rest of society, including the right, enables this one-sidedness. Sure, it might slam feminism when it goes to far, but that strikes me as more motivated by an instinct to stick it to the left than deep concern for abused boys. The same people might then turn around and call male victims of statutory rape lucky, as did, say, Bill Maher, one of the strongest critics of extreme feminism on the centre-left.

This is where I, as an MRA sympathiser, feel the most alone. Slamming quotas or the extremes of metoo is no problem - most people agree. But seeing gender-based victimhood in men and boys seems to rub everyone the wrong way.

RonApex · 2018-08-30T05:36:43+00:00

There is a simple rule in life i learned early on. Hit, get hit.

lrish_Chick · 2018-08-30T11:08:43+00:00

UBC, this is not a surprising finding.

StatCan Family Violence in Canada Report, 2014 says, on page 3:

In 2014, equal proportions of men and women reported being victims of spousal violence during the preceding 5 years (4%, respectively). This translated into about 342,000 women and 418,000 men across the pro vinces. Similar declines in spousal violence were recorded for both sexes since 2004.

This is actually not "equal proportions," as stated by this report. 55% of self-reported domestic violence victims in Canada in 2014 were men, not women. This has been known by the Canadian federal government and anyone with access to this report for a minimum of 2 years, but that doesn't stop things like this:

Ontario Ministry of Children, Community, Social Services (with the surprising URL of women.gov.on.ca):

The majority of spousal violence victims are women, representing 83% of all victims (2007).

Women are almost four times more likely than men to be victims of spousal violence (2011).

What utter bullshit. Please note that the two latter facts are for police-reported spousal violence, not self-reported. The stigma of women not being physically abusive to men greatly affects police perception, it seems.

5th_Law_of_Robotics · 2018-08-30T16:24:35+00:00

Toxic femininity. Women need to be taught that they don't have a right to do whatever they want to men.

thrway_1000 · 2018-08-30T15:19:40+00:00

Archive -- https://archive.is/3tpyQ

staticsnake · 2018-08-30T21:00:22+00:00

So we're assuming they all reported accurately? Whole groups may not be comfortable reporting. We can't just accept this at face value. One group might not report as often or easily as the other. We already know under-reporting occurs in a lot of victim related things.

Title	Teen dating violence is down, but boys still report more violence than girls
Author	WaVancouver
Upvotes	199
Comments	28
Date	August 30, 2018 5:05 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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