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The internet complains after an employer fails to destroy a man's life after he is accused of "sexual misconduct" which includes being a bit mean and attempting to kiss someone in public.

mully_and_sculder

June 13, 2018
43 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/editors-boston-review-resign-over-decision-keep-junot-d-az-n882156
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Title The internet complains after an employer fails to destroy a man's life after he is accused of "sexual misconduct" which includes being a bit mean and attempting to kiss someone in public.
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mully_and_sculder

Upvotes 43
Comments 17
Date June 13, 2018 12:27 AM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/8qo3o8/the_internet_complains_after_an_employer_fails_to/
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[–]EricAllonde 16 points17 points18 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

So a guy who was accused of nonsense like this:

When Diaz entered the room, he refused to sit or take off his jacket. He told Fortes her introduction was too long and would not let her read it.

Fortes explained he laughed and dismissed questions that she and fellow co-moderator's asked during the session, instead calling on audience members.

"Every single woman who asked a question got laughed at," Fortes said.

She was clear that she was not a victim of sexual violence, but she did feel that she had been a recipient of his "misogynistic behavior."

...got to rightly keep his job and several (male & female) feminists quit their jobs in protest.

That sounds like a win-win to me.

Hopefully the feminists can be replaced with more sensible, less easily triggered, non-feminist editors and the company will be all the better for it.

[–]apeironman 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yet another woman who conflates dislike of herself with hatred of women. Not saying I know if he does or not but how do you make that connection? Certainly not the first time I've heard this.

[–]PIG_CUNT 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Easy. When you reduce yourself to a group label - bigotry no different than seeing people of one race as being all the same rather than unique individuals - and see yourself as that label rather than an individual, it makes you deny accountability for your own individuality.

So instead of wondering "Was my question stupid? He did laugh, after all," it's "I'm a woman and he laughed, therefore he hates women!" How sad to see oneself as just the label rather than a totally unique being.

[–]apeironman 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It sounds like they just don't like each other. However, he shows it by being rude and she shows it by trying to get him fired for misogyny.

[–]PatriarchysConcubine 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The outcome here is refreshing though.

[–]PIG_CUNT 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's how awesome the accuser is:

Clemmons said she believes she is far from the only woman he has "exploited" and told The Associated Press that she cannot bear to think of the others.

  • doesn't know whether there are any victims of assault by him, other than allegedly herself.
  • despite a lack of evidence, thinks there are multiple victims
  • claims she can't bear to think about them

Yep: she "can't bear" to think about people that she THOUGHT up.

[+]CertainItem1 points 8 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

Pulitzer winner Junot Diaz accused of sexual misconduct by fellow writer

Since Clemmons' tweets, other women have come forward with stories of alleged verbal abuse and misogyny by Diaz.

When Diaz entered the room, he refused to sit or take off his jacket. He told Fortes her introduction was too long and would not let her read it.

She was clear that she was not a victim of sexual violence, but she did feel that she had been a recipient of his "misogynistic behavior."

And once more for shit and giggles...

Pulitzer winner Junot Diaz accused of sexual misconduct by fellow writer

So, every man who said #metoo would be used as a weapon against any and every man some bitch had a beef with and was laughed at and called paranoid, and a closet rapist... was actually fucking right and not paranoid, and these feminist twats are using as a weapon when some man didn't walk in and kiss their ass. These idiots women can't walk 2 feet without fucking themselves right in the ass!

[–]andejoh 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

"The accusations came soon after Díaz wrote an essay for The New Yorker describing his experiences of sexual assault as a child. "

Sound like people wanting to "refocus" the narrative that women are the victims?

[–]Preumd 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"The accusations came soon after Díaz wrote an essay for The New Yorker describing his experiences of sexual assault as a child. "

Holy shit. These feminists are just fucking vile.

[–]PIG_CUNT 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely.

[–]PIG_CUNT 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck these people for keeping him aboard for the wrong reasons instead of the right reasons.

The editors in chief of the Boston Review, Deborah Chasman and Joshua Cohen, wrote a public letter last Tuesday detailing their reasons for keeping Díaz on staff at the magazine, which focuses mainly on politics and literature. They said they did not believe that the accusations revealed a “larger pattern of abusing power.”

Additionally, they argued, “the objectionable conduct described in the public reports does not have the kind of severity that animated the #MeToo movement.”

OHHHHH, so if they believed - not "had proof" or "let the court decide," but if they BELIEVED - the accusations revealed a larger pattern of abusing power, then it would be ok to fire him? Sorry, that's called lynching: deciding someone is guilty and making them suffer even though you don't have the authority to decide their guilt.

And if “the objectionable conduct described in the public reports" DID "have the kind of severity that animated the #MeToo movement," THEN it would be ok to fire him? Because an unproven ACCUSATION was a more severe accusation?

Fuck these people. They should have kept him on staff because he is innocent until proven guilty. Diaz deserves better.

[–]mwobuddy 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That pic looks very sexual assaulty.

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I didn't realize you were an expert in the science and data of sexual assault lighting and facial expression.

Oh, it's you, the nutter. That explains it

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Half face lighting, mustache, stone facial expression. Its the archetype.

[–]PIG_CUNT 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I disagree. And who decides what the archetype is? That's a rhetorical question to show that you're wrong, lol

[–]PIG_CUNT 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Junot Diaz has made his behavior the burden of young women — particularly women of color — for far too long, enabled by his team and the institutions that employ him," Clemmons wrote in a statement to the AP. "It is time for the burden of his bad behavior to be laid squarely at his feet, and for him to deal with the consequences of his actions."

Why is it time for the burden of his allegedly bad behavior to be laid squarely at his feet? Why was it not time yet until now?? If he has made his behavior the burden of young women for far too long, and if accusing him is the right thing to do, then why didn't you do the right thing in the past instead of letting it go on for too long?

[–]thrway_1000 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

They never do this when a woman was is accused.

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