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Feminists & Men's Rights Advocates May Agree on 1 Thing: We Need to Change Age of Consent Laws to Save Women & Men from Being Labeled Rapists

HappySingleMan

January 9, 2018
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https://mensrightsandfeminism.wordpress.com/2018/01/09/woman-30-started-raping-boy-when-he-was-15/
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Title Feminists & Men's Rights Advocates May Agree on 1 Thing: We Need to Change Age of Consent Laws to Save Women & Men from Being Labeled Rapists
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HappySingleMan

Upvotes 8
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Date January 9, 2018 10:33 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/7pawmq/feminists_mens_rights_advocates_may_agree_on_1/
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[–]thrway_1000 10 points11 points12 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The preface to this article proves the writer is a POS so skip the article and skip the people who support it. Has this POS never heard of grooming, coercion, power imbalance, and social pressure. Sorry, as someone much older I can tell you he is, and was a child. What this woman did is reprehensible and acting like it's nothing, as the writer implies, shows they're reprehensible too.

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[–]andejoh 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm fully supportive of making age of consent 18 with a prohibition on high school staff having sex with students at their school. There is too much inconsistency in the law and I mean inconsistency of thought. I do see an argument for barring someone who can take legal responsibility for a child (pay child support, etc.) having sex with someone who can't take legal responsibility for a child.

If age of consent is too high then so is age to vote, age to drink, age to drive, age to be drafted, age to enter into a contract, age to deciding whether you'll play high school football, etc.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

If age of consent is too high then so is age to vote, age to drink, age to drive, age to be drafted, age to enter into a contract, age to deciding whether you'll play high school football, etc.

You can't conflate things that can hurt others with things that can only hurt oneself, though. There should be stricter standards in general for engaging in activities where you have a responsibility to others.

With sex, every individual can choose to use protection, hence the only harm they can really be responsible for with regards STDs is that inflicted on themselves by being careless.

With some common-sense exceptions, of course. My wife was a virgin before she met me, and I should reasonably be able to assume I won't catch anything off her. If I do, she cheated, and her actions caused the harm. With one-night stands, one can't reasonably expect to be careless and get away with it.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You can't conflate things that can hurt others with things that can only hurt oneself, though.

How does that change based on a person's age? An older person who chooses to drink and t-bones a vehicle killing several people has still killed several people. The fact that they're 21 hasn't changed that. A 16 year old who drinks and wraps hois car around a pole has only killed himself. The fact that he's 16 doesn't change that.

If a 14 year old boy has a child with a 21 year old women. His actions may have only hurt him (but his actions are not illegal). Her actions though as an adult have affected both her and him. The prohibition is against her having sex with him not against them having sex just like there is no law against drinking (again based on age) or driving. The law only restricts them when done together.

[–]Talbooth 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What kind of experiment are you running by posting the same thing twice with titles and comments that express a very different opinion on the topic?

[–]Juicyjackson 5 points6 points7 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In most states the age of consent is 16. And the “Romeo and Juliet law” means that the age of consent is reduced if the couple is within 4 years of each other, minimum age of 13.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think that this is really reasonable, I think the author is wrong that Valeria Costadoni had a fully consensual relationship with the 16 year old. Someone that much older with someone still developing has an immense and dangerous amount of power. You could use the author's logic to justify the harmful practice of pederasty.

[–]GreatBayTemple 1 point2 points3 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Age of consent should be lower. To 15 at the lowest in my opinion. Only after they make it a crime to give someone an STD.

[–]HappySingleMan 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I think we need to stop packing courtrooms with fake rapists and fake rape victims on both sides.

[–]Mode1961 3 points4 points5 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Once again though it seems society only seems to care a little more NOW that more and more women are running afoul of this law.

[–]Gaarsh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I was just thinking that most 16 year old males I knew would have loved to fuck some of the hot teachers we had. And then I started thinking on how sexualized some of the girls were, and heck, it probably happens that a girl fucks a man completely willingly as well.

But then you start thinking of the possibilities to harm kids if you make it legal, and it gets kind eerie.

I mean, a teacher should definitely know better, and is in a position of power and shit. For some reason, I'd tend to feel more for a girl being fucked by an old fart; I know it's not equal, but it's sort of hard driven into me for some reason.

I say, jail the teacher, she should have known better.

[–]Apexbreed 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Most of the girls I went to high school with wanted to fuck at least one of their teachers. Girls were way more sexually forward than guys were at my school. My ex straight out told me she would suck her teachers dick if he let her. We didn't last very long...

[–]Kyle_Fischer 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

One thing we need to change is the application of a mistake of fact defense. In many States, an honest and reasonable mistake of fact as to someone's age is not a defense to carnal knowledge.

So....hypothetically.....in a case where I lied to a 29 year old guest at a hotel where I worked as a room service waiter at the age of 16 and told her that I was 19, she would be technically guilty of forcible sodomy if she gave me a blow job and I turned her in. I would be considered a "victim" in that situation, and by no means would I have been a victim.

And, as a defense attorney, I think there should be one uniform age for consent in the United States. I think that a mistake of fact defense should apply uniformly. There should be a Romeo and Juliet exception that applies uniformly. And, I think that young women are just as horny as young men, so there should not be a disparity in sentencing if there is a law prohibiting a relationship between teachers and students.

[–]HappySingleMan -2 points-1 points0 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Please note: I have included Commentar on top of the article, with source links, about what Feminists and Men's Rights activists should do. This has to stop.

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