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Staying mute about mental health is killing men. Time to Unmute and Ask Him, stresses Movember.com’s newest campaign on suicide prevention.

Imnotmrabut

September 17, 2017
15 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.torontosun.com/2017/09/14/male-suicide-many-suffer-in-silence
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Title Staying mute about mental health is killing men. Time to Unmute and Ask Him, stresses Movember.com’s newest campaign on suicide prevention.
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Imnotmrabut

Upvotes 15
Comments 7
Date September 17, 2017 11:48 PM UTC
(8 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/70r7h0/staying_mute_about_mental_health_is_killing_men/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/staying-mute-about-mental-health-is-killing-men.914222
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Comments

[–]Exittttttttttttt 8 points9 points10 points 8 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

What we really need is for men to actually man up and share their stories with other boys and men.

Just another way of placing all of the burdens and responsibilities on men.

I'd like to see some actual studies on why men are committing suicide. For example I've heard that suicide rates increase for men after divorce. Is there some way we could make their lives easier? Like, say abolish alimony and let them spend equal time with their children?

Blaming everything on "mental health" ignores the fact that many men are depressed for perfectly legitimate reasons.

[–]iainmf 4 points5 points6 points 8 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yep, 'man up' and 'open up' are basically the same thing. A man has to be strong to overcome his troubles.

Another thing that pisses me off is that people view male suicide as a failure of men, rather than a failure of the system. eg we say 'Men are ashamed to access mental health services' rather than 'mental health services are not meeting men's needs'.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd like to know why they think men are mute? There are a lot of ways men disclose their problems. People won't listen and demand men disclose their issues in a particular way like specifically asking for help with a specific issue.

If a man's demeanor or habits change, that's an indication of maybe a conversation needs to be started. If a man stops initiating sex with his wife, she automatically assumes an issue, but if a guy who usually likes eating out for lunch starts brown bagging it, she's not concerned unless he tells her there's something wrong.

Warning signs are the same thing as talking, but since they're not women's preferred method, it gets panned as men not seeking help.

https://save.org/about-suicide/warning-signs-risk-factors-protective-factors/

WTF happened to by stander intervention when it comes to suicide?

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If you look at the warning signs according to SAVE, not all of them are verbal. Men are shamed for not communicating in the way preferred by women.

https://save.org/about-suicide/warning-signs-risk-factors-protective-factors/

[–]splodgenessabounds 2 points3 points4 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is there some way we could make their lives easier? Like, say abolish alimony and let them spend equal time with their children?

Abolish alimony??? Equal time with their children??!?? What kind of heresy is this? Are you mad? What will the poor Wimminz do?

Now go and rinse your mouth out with soap and water, and in future keep your weird notions to yourself.

[–]mgtownigga 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

yeah, these are questions that they don't want to deal with though.

[–]number4ty7 0 points1 point2 points 8 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. This is where I'm at right now and it's certainly not funny.

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