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Feminist outraged about including male victims of rape or male victims of false accusations in the campus rape discussion

HeForeverBleeds

July 17, 2017
112 upvotes
/r/MensRights
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Title Feminist outraged about including male victims of rape or male victims of false accusations in the campus rape discussion
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HeForeverBleeds

Upvotes 112
Comments 12
Date July 17, 2017 5:27 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]Lethn 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Because MRAs who insist that false rape accusations are the real epidemic deserve to be heard out, right? Uh...no.

Uh yes, it's a Democracy, DeVos is free to listen to her citizens in that country.

And that’s not all. The Southern Poverty Law Center includes SAVE on a list of "websites, blogs and forums dedicated to savaging feminists in particular and women, very typically American women, in general" and describes their as goal as "lobbying to roll back services for victims of domestic abuse and penalties for their tormentors, while working to return the focus to the 'true victims of abuse' — the falsely accused.”

You know the southern poverty law center also declared along with the anti-defamation league that pepe the frog is now a fucking hate symbol?

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2016/09/28/pepe-joins-echoes-new-hate-symbols

Now I didn't know about SAVE so let's go and visit their website just to see whether what is being said is actually true.

http://www.saveservices.org/

Yeah, absolutely nothing controversial there, in fact you'd have to be as stupid and ridiculous as a feminist to think there is something wrong with this organisation helping men.

Sorry to go on my own tirade against this moron's tirade everybody but this managed to irritate me.

In case you’re still feeling optimistic, ThinkProgress points out that DeVos has also donated to an anti-"guidance" group: the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), which has shared articles that say things like, “Unfortunately, much of the feminist ‘war on rape’ has conflated sexual assault with muddled, often alcohol-fueled, sexual encounters that involve miscommunication.”

Attacking FIRE is fucking low but the funny thing is she can't even slander properly, the idea is that you leave out the context of quote like that so that their point doesn't sound coherent or well made. The only good thing about this is it seems the mere thought of the government actually listening to MRAs in particular is causing feminists everywhere to have a collective mental breakdown and I thought it was hilarious when Trump got elected and Brexit won.

It just goes to show you that a lot of this is about money, for most of these professional activists, it isn't about men, not really, or even women. This is about the fact that they're potentially having their juicy grants and government funding taken away from their useless 'projects' that are really just designed to enrich themselves rather than genuinely help people.

[–]Badgerz92 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Because MRAs who insist that false rape accusations are the real epidemic

We aren't even saying that false rape accusations are the real epidemic. Most MRAs I've seen know that most rape accusations are not false accusations. But there are more false rape accusations than feminists will acknowledge, and men accused of rape deserve basic due process.

These articles also keep ignoring the fact that NCFM also advocates for male victims of rape, while feminists and the Obama administration ignored male victims and instead thought only women could be raped.

[–]EricAllonde 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only good thing about this is it seems the mere thought of the government actually listening to MRAs in particular is causing feminists everywhere to have a collective mental breakdown and I thought it was hilarious when Trump got elected and Brexit won.

I agree. In addition to "Trump derangement syndrome" we now also have "DeVos derangement syndrome". Hilarious!

[–]HiredMind 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

LOL They appeal to the authority of the Southern Policy Law Center - which I think is the only "think tank" to have actually inspired a domestic terrorist attack.

[–]TigPlaze 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

They didn't even bother to check their facts. SAVE is NOT on the SPLC's list of hate groups. Here's the list. They're not on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_organizations_designated_by_the_Southern_Poverty_Law_Center_as_hate_groups

[–]Silly_Balls 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I listened to 1a presentation on this, and Betsy Devos met with both sides. Those that say they were sexually assaulted and those that say they were innocent. My understanding was that she was trying to make the process more coherent across schools. I didn't see anywhere listed that she was meeting with MRAs, or only MRAs. Honestly I'm not a fan of Trump or Devos, but this seems like a reasonable thing to do if you want to fix a problem...

[–]Badgerz92 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm not a fan of Trump or Devos either, but Devos standing up to misandrists is something I'll gladly support.

[–]Luchadorgreen 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What absolute horseshite. The author straight-up lies about the NCFM.

[–]Ted8367 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

“men’s rights” organizations including Families Advocating for Campus Equality (FACE), Stop Abusive and Violent Environments (SAVE), and - get this - the National Coalition For Men

The latest list of targets for the Sisters.

[–]chambertlo 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The sole goal of the modern feminist is to be the only person considered in anything. Narcissism and egoism has ruined their entire movement, and they have yet to realize it.

[–]Mens-Advocate 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

(Female) Narcissism and egoism have made their movement quite successful, unfortunately.

[–]Imnotmrabut 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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