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The irony of /r/feminism is on a higher level now.

howhardcoulditB

June 11, 2017
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Title The irony of /r/feminism is on a higher level now.
Author

howhardcoulditB

Upvotes 160
Comments 47
Date June 11, 2017 1:28 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/6gld39/the_irony_of_rfeminism_is_on_a_higher_level_now/
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[–]howhardcoulditB[S] 53 points54 points55 points 9 years ago (24 children) | Copy Link

This was posted today over there. It's amazing that they have no self awareness.

[–]ZyxStx 26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Next thing you know they'll be making up the human rights are sexist and mysogninistic

[–]tetraourogallus 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That actually wouldn't surprise me. They could dismiss human rights as an idea created by men and then create new feminist human rights in which men's rights are restricted with the justification that men don't need right as they have the patriarchy.

[–]xNOM 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Feminists are stupid. I challenge these idiots to find a single "moral" issue where men and women do not have roughly the same opinions.

Exhibit A: abortion

http://www.gallup.com/poll/183434/americans-choose-pro-choice-first-time-seven-years.aspx

[+]guillemqv -7 points-6 points-5 points 9 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link

There's a real feminist sub, r/TwoXChromosomes I think, people there are wonderful, and have common sense, they do really talk about equality

[–]dukunt 18 points19 points20 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

But they have banned you from ever posting there! Why have they banned you, you ask? Because you're a misogynist. Now you may tell yourself "Im not a misogynist!" But they have already decided that you are and they have already banned you from 2x.

[–]guillemqv -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Uuuh, nope, just got an answer to a post I made here 10 minutes ago. Seriously, the people there are not like this. I haven't seen the word "misogynist" a single time. Take a look and you'll see

[–]dukunt 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Weird...they ban everyone that posts on mensrights...odd.

[–]guillemqv -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Are we talking about r/TwoXChromosomes or about r/feminism?

[–]morerokk 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

TwoX definitely banned people for posting in certain subs, such as MGTOW and pussypassdenied.

[–]guillemqv 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

But men's right? People here have similar opinions to them. They seem pretty centered people indeed, time will tell

[–]Cardplay3r 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Banning ppl just from posting in some places is bad enough though

[–]guillemqv 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes... I contacted the mod them of r/TwoXChromosomes, and they admitted that some people have been banned for posting in subs that periodically perjudice twoX. I asked them to put those subs in their FAQ, so at least we know what's going on. I agree with you, they should limit to what gets posted in their sub. If someone behaves correctly there, but also posts in subs where he is completely different, that shouldn't be a reason of ban.

[–]MattLyte 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Take a look

And you'll see

Into your imagination

We'll begin

With a spin

Traveling in

The world of my creation

[–]morerokk 15 points16 points17 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

TwoX is just as bad as the rest, unfortunately.

They banned a lot of people because they posted in subreddits that the mods didn't like.

[–]majortom22 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Got my ban notification on just those grounds this morning.

Nevermind that all of my posts in twoX have all been positive and constructive. My actions don't matter. Not when there's thought crime afoot.

[–]guillemqv 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wtf, why are people like this? Seriously??

[–]guillemqv 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wtf, why are people like this? Seriously??

[–]nforne 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You should ask for the ban to be lifted. They say they'll do this if you have a 'respectful post history' (not sure how they determine that, but it would be interesting to see if they actually do lift your ban).

[–]guillemqv 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had no idea about that, I didn't have any problem, and everyone I talked to are kind and friendly, when this changes, I'll change my opinion :')

[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

And when they examine issues with men, what is their common answer? I'll tell you:

"Outdated Gender Roles"

That's it.

Never will they go further and take a long look at what Feminism has done to contribute to keeping men boxed in.

Ask them about Mary K. Ross erasing male sexual abuse victims of female perpetrators from research. Bring up The Tender Years Doctrine and The National Organization for Women protesting against Shared Parenting.

The Duluth Model of Domestic Violence, Title IX, etc.

Prime examples of the ways in which feminism has perpetuated the very sexist, toxic gender roles hamstringing men. Yeah, they'll say "They don't represent feminism". Well, no one protested against them. No push back. It's suddenly NOW these reasonable feminists come out and plead "But Feminism is equality for all!"

That's why I find places like r/TwoXChromosomes limited in their scope. And that's putting it politely.

[–]guillemqv 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Wow, I usually comment on non-political posts, and until now, I had no idea they where like this... Is there any women sub that we get on well :3?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Why? Usually when women get on well and support Men's Rights, they come here.

[–]guillemqv 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

True xD

[–]EsraYmssik 24 points25 points26 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_feather#World_War_I

"Wealthy men and women created a moral code and they expect poorer men to accept it. They have decided that is entirely right and proper to shame young men into dying by the thousand to enrich arms manufacturers."

FTFY

[–]WikiTextBot 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

White feather: World War I

In August 1914, at the start of the First World War, Admiral Charles Fitzgerald founded the Order of the White Feather with support from the prominent author Mrs Humphrey Ward. The organization aimed to shame men into enlisting in the British army by persuading women to present them with a white feather if they were not wearing a uniform. This was joined by some prominent feminists and suffragettes of the time, such as Emmeline Pankhurst and her daughter Christabel. They, in addition to handing out the feathers, also lobbied to institute an involuntary universal draft, which included those who lacked votes due to being too young or not owning property. While the true effectiveness of the campaign is impossible to judge, it did spread throughout several other nations in the Empire.


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[–]Ultramegasaurus 35 points36 points37 points 9 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

Meanwhile feminism is literally the most succesful (social) revolutionary movement in history met with miniscule amounts of resistance.

[+]_lel_xD_ points 9 years ago [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

that's what really gets me. they always use this argument that 'society' is against them when in reality almost everyone is on their side.

[–]Ultramegasaurus 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminism's whole theoretical foundation is at odds with its own success.

[+]_lel_xD_ points 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

sometimes i feel like they just want to be as oppressed as possible, so they invented "rape culture" and talk about how everyone is against them and "the patriarchy" and turn everything into a race/gender issue

[–]nforne 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You are exactly right. Feminists are very well aware that victim status gives them an almost impenetrable shield against criticism.

There are weapons that can be used, logic and facts, but in the hands of men they are ineffective.

It's hard for them to play the victim with other women, which is why the likes of Karen Straughan and Cassie Jaye are so important.

[–]Septadee 16 points17 points18 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In theory, why wouldn't you be a feminist? It's about the oppressed trying to get rights that have forever been denied to them.

Or so you'd think just by looking at the subreddit. In reality, r/feminism are a bunch of 20's somethings females with a modstaff that looks remarkably like Stalin and his lackeys.

[–]AssAssIn46 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In theory, why wouldn't you be a feminist? It's about the oppressed trying to get rights that have forever been denied to them.

And that's exactly why people act like you're some woman-hating misogynist if you say you aren't a feminist. I agree with the idea of women and men have equal rights. What I don't agree with is the ideology of feminism. A lot of ideologies are based on noble causes, like feminism is, but they themselves can be very despicable. I criticize feminism, not women having equal rights to men. But then again, it is feminist propaganda that if you don't agree with them you're a sexist, misogynist, woman hater...

In all fairness, most groups do this but the difference is that feminism has the social and political power to enforce this whereas other groups are dismissed.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep and anyone who objects to feminism is seen as the enemy or a "misogynist" aiding the patriarchy, even if you're a woman. Actually if you're a woman who takes any interest in Men's rights then you're either an attention whore or a delusional mouthpiece. How's that for empowerment?

[–]Septadee 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Went to there to discuss libertarian values and the merit in dissenting opinion.

Got banned within 16 hours of participating.

[–]jeff_the_nurse 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome!

[–]Imnotmrabut 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Give her a Red Pill - from her daughter!

http://imgur.com/CKanAFx

[–]PoofyPossum666 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Since my comment on the original post will likely be deleted I'll post it here as well. Sometimes you gotta vent that red pill rage.

Women have the right to decide for men that they become parents simply because they fucked them. Women that rape little boys have the right to decide for them that they become parents. All males, men and boys, are subject to female supremacy. They have no reproductive or parental rights at all and are rendered little more than beasts of burden for their oppressors privilege, subject to an enormous legally imposed obligation and should they not live up to it, they go to jail.

Men and boys are routinely enslaved to women and you try so hard to convince yourselves that you're the victims. You're pathetic.

Baby boys have their genitalia mutilated when they're born, we're treated no better than dogs from the get go.

The vast majority of unreciprocated domestic violence is carried out by women upon men and they're given a complete fucking pass for this. Our purely gynocentric society is only concerned when men fight back. Much like how a dog will be put down once it bites back at an abusive owner.

Children are more likely to be murdered by their own mothers.

This was never a patriarchy and you've never been a victim of systemic oppression, men and boys are the victims of systemic oppression and you benefit from it, deep down you realize this and you're scrambling for every half-assed excuse to deny your privilege.

One day you'll have kicked your dogs for the final time. One day the dogs will break free from their fucking cage. One day you'll really see male rage in America.

And you'll have no one to blame but yourselves.

Fuck you.

[–]howhardcoulditB[S] 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Anger is not going to get us anywhere. Logic and appeal to reason is. You have good points, but with your post, they will just turn you off and ban you. Granted you might have gotten banned anyway since they ban anyone who doesn't drink the kool-aid.

[–]PoofyPossum666 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I completely agree with you, my post achieved nothing for men's rights, this likely won't change any minds. Sometimes you just have to vent. Peace, brother.

[–]This_is_my_phone_tho 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean, men fight for their wife and children back home. That's always the theme that's pushed in war movies and shit.

I think once you're fighting it turns into self preservation, but I don't think anyone is thinking about exclusively men when they're fighting.

Or are we talking about civil stuff?

[–]zapazoomzoom 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

women should work in the coal mine while the men stay home and cook and clean.

[–]jeff_the_nurse -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, this actually was appropriate back in the day. Not now, of course, but it was back then.

[–]EsraYmssik 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

To be fair, this actually was appropriate back in the day.

No it wasn't. Pankhurst was part of the great campaign to shame men into enlisting in WW1; basically a rich woman deciding it was "right and proper" to send young men to their deaths in the trenches.

If women had been subject to the draft she might have had a point.

[–]AssAssIn46 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree, it was. But you know why they're talking about men fighting for their rights? Because men too had to fight for their goddamn rights. We're told that women were oppressed by the evil patriarchy of men but that's completely false if you look at history. Yes, social norms were different for men and women and men had more rights. However, men fought for those rights too. The only people who did have basic human rights throughout history has been the upper class. Working class men had to earn the right to vote and all the other stuff. Some (very few) upper class women could actually vote before working class men and women got the right to vote because they were land owners. But you'll never hear much about that. Nope, apparently all throughout history all men had power and oppressed all women.

[–]howhardcoulditB[S] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It was posted with a title saying how it's just as relevant now.

[–]jeff_the_nurse 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's what I mean.

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