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Saw this at a hospital. A reminder that dads can also bond with newborns.

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May 1, 2017
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Title Saw this at a hospital. A reminder that dads can also bond with newborns.
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fuck-r-news-mods

Upvotes 870
Comments 28
Date May 1, 2017 1:54 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/68jc27/saw_this_at_a_hospital_a_reminder_that_dads_can/
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[–]iainmf 72 points73 points74 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Bonding is only one benefit.

Impact on the baby

  • Father SSC is as effective as mother SSC in raising a baby’s temperature and there is no difference between father and mother skin-to-skin on biophysical measures of the baby’s expenditure of energy. (Sweden, Germany)

  • Babies experiencing father SSC had significantly higher blood glucose levels (protection from cold) than babies who were left instead in an incubator. (Sweden)

  • Babies who experienced father SSC showed lower levels of salivary cortisol when handled, indicating a lower stress response. (Sweden)

  • Babies receiving father SSC were more easily comforted and stopped crying more quickly than babies left in the cot. (Sweden)

  • Pre-feeding behaviours, such as rooting and sucking activities, were less frequent among the infants who received father SSC, which meant that they were calmer than the infants placed in the cot. Infants receiving father SSC started breastfeeding a little later than those receiving SSC only from their mothers. (Sweden)

  • Two studies found small differences between mother and father SSC. A Swedish study found that father SSC was more effective than mother SSC in comforting a crying baby but mother SSC led to less whining. A Canadian study found that the baby’s pain response was marginally less during a blood test. But the differences are small and could be due to other factors (e.g. a mother may be more likely to take charge of a fussy baby).

Impact on father

  • Fathers who provided SSC to preterm infants exhibited more caring behaviours and developed a more sensitive approach to their infants. (India)

  • After a pre-term birth, father SSC was linked to better cognitive development of the baby and more engagement at home by the father (as reported by the mother). (Colombia)

  • Paternal oxytocin levels were significantly increased and cortisol levels were significantly decreased during and after SSC. Oxytocin is linked to love and care, cortisol to anxiety. Fathers who provided SSC felt less stress, less anxious, and had better relationship with the mother. (USA, Sweden)

  • Father SSC, like mother SSC, promotes verbal interaction between infant and parent within minutes of the birth, based on measurements from Caesarean births. The difference was stronger for infant boys. (Sweden)

  • Fathers who have experienced SSC feel more in control when handling unexpected situations and participated more in infant care. (Denmark, Sweden)

[Source]

[–]honorocagan 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I had never heard of this before. This is phenomenal.

Thank you.

[–]AssAssIn46 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

That's awesome, it's nice to have learnt that. Thanks.

Also, do you know if the impacts on the father have anything to do with hormonal changes? I've read that parents go through several hormonal changes when they become parents and it's obviously more severe for mothers due to pregnancies but could SSC have an impact on hormonal changes in fathers and could a lack of SSC explain why some fathers don't feel as much of a connection to their children?

[–]iainmf 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know. You'll have to research that yourself.

[–]intensely_human 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know one way or the other but it would by surprise me at all if hormones were involved in this.

[–][deleted] 38 points39 points40 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Especially when my kids were sick, just holding them skin on skin made a huge difference in a way that was completely different than my wife holding them.

On several occasions I'd spend most of the night reclined in the rocking chair trying to keep a sick kid asleep while I tried to nap off and on. Skin on skin (well...hairy skin...) contact made a huge difference in them sleeping.

[–]SaigaFan 26 points27 points28 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

My favorite thing was coming home after work and taking the baby to the recliner chair and just nap while he slept on my chest.

Best naps ever.

[–]Covalency22 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When I was really ill, my step father, despite not being my real father still had an impact on the way it felt. I don't know why, but it felt better to be held and I felt less sick from it.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Skin on skin (well...hairy skin...)

Is this your son?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, me.

Except I'm taller...

[–]boxsterguy 22 points23 points24 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

I was lucky enough to get first skin to skin contact with both of my sons when they were born, if only for a minute. It's something my wife and I discussed as something I wanted to do for bonding purposes (I can't breastfeed, obviously ...). She wasn't 100% on board, but when both kids ended up breech and had to be delivered c-section that gave me the opportunity to carry the kid to her after cutting the cord and the nurses did all their measurements. I just opened up the surgical gown I was wearing (I was not in a sterile part of the OR, so it was okay and in fact encouraged by the nurses), snuggled the kid right up, held him for a moment, and then handed him off to the wife while the doctor closed her up.

It was only for a minute with each, and obviously there were many later skin to skin contact instances, but that "first" for each is something I'll cherish forever.

[+]espalorplana points 9 years ago [recovered] (9 children) | Copy Link

Why would she not be 100% on board with that?

[–]boxsterguy 10 points11 points12 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

To be clear, that part of the discussion was solely about who would hold the kid very first thing out of the womb, not who would do skin to skin. Either way, that kid was going to get pressed up into my naked, hairy man boobs. The question was whether that was before or after mom got snuggles.

We landed on the decision that she would get first snuggles (I won the "circumcise or not" discussion and my kids are both intact), but circumstances change and I took the opportunity when it arose.

[–]AssAssIn46 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I won the "circumcise or not" discussion and my kids are both intact

Fuck yeah. Good dad.

[–]boxsterguy 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Her position was, "I never really thought about it, and so I have no strong feelings either way." So I got to choose by default, and chose the only obvious, rational, non-abusive path.

[–]AssAssIn46 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

and chose the only obvious, rational, non-abusive path.

If only more people would do that.

[–]boxsterguy 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Selling it was really easy, too. "Do you want to do wound care in a septic environment like a diaper? Or do you want to clean it no differently than you'd clean his pinky finger?"

And of course since number one wasn't cut, you can't cut number two. That'd just be weird.

[–]AttilaTheBuns 17 points18 points19 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

She probably wanted hold the kids herself for a while because she just gave birth.

[–]boxsterguy 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. There can be only one "first hold", and she understandably wanted first. That was fine with me, but it turned out in my favor anyway.

[–]masterofthehaus 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Meh, she carried the baby inside her for 40 weeks and then went through labor, she might want first dibs on the holding.

[–]intensely_human 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

She got her turn for 40 weeks though!

[–]richJ73 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

When my first was born the nurse told me to take my t-shirt off before I held the baby, I thought it was a weird sterile policy as I had been wearing the t-shirt for like 30 hours at this point.

[–]hapaxx_legomenon 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In my experience, I found that a midwife was a great help in ensuring a father is as fully included as possible in the pregnancy and birth process.

They will strongly advocate for skin to skin with both parents, and can also make sure everything is going medically according to plans/wishes so you can focus on the moment and your partner instead.

Having a midwife in the hospital is a nice kind of middle ground between modern and traditional ways of having kids.

[–]Flupox 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Crossposting this to r/daddit

[–]MingoBarnes 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whenever I see a baby sleeping peacefully I immediately wish I was a baby still.

[–]wont_tell_i_refuse 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Wonder what the psychological effect of being strapped to a table and having a part of your dick sliced off is.

[–]intensely_human 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's as bad as you'd expect. There's a well-sourced article on Psychology Today about it that I often link to. I'm on mobile so can't find it. It summarizes a lot of research and includes things like:

  • lower threshold of pain for life
  • more cortisol
  • more anxiety and depression
  • more likely to have problems with premature ejaculation

[–]petemate 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Credit valley? Sounds like my life..

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