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What Are A Father’s Rights To Prevent An Abortion?

GOD_not_G_D

February 19, 2017
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Title What Are A Father’s Rights To Prevent An Abortion?
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GOD_not_G_D

Upvotes 6
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Date February 19, 2017 8:22 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/5v07pq/what_are_a_fathers_rights_to_prevent_an_abortion/
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[–]AnotherDAM 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Crap article - men do not have a right to become a father.

The person in question who took out the bill board protesting that she "killed our child" should do a LOT of self reflection and choose a better SHE next time.

Like Paul I feel that most men are happiest in a committed pair-bonded relationship (of whatever flavor).

I would much rather see mandatory school-age training on how to pick a good mate than to force a woman to have a child with someone whom she clearly sees no future.

EDIT: missing word

[–]jslnk 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Then women do not have a right to become a mother.

A man should have the right of refusal for her to use his genetic material and should be empowered to force an abortion if he chooses.

As it stands, he doesn't even have the right to be informed.

But you're absolutely right on learning to choose better partners. There are programs for women - where are the ones for men?

[–]AnotherDAM 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Then women do not have a right to become a mother.

er, uhm, OK. Trying to think where anyone posited that they did.

A man should have the right of refusal for her to use his genetic material

He does.

... should be empowered to force an abortion if he chooses.

Nope

As it stands, he doesn't even have the right to be informed.

You never took debate or civics in grade school, did you? You can TRY to force biology to fit your peculiar worldview and you will lose EVERY time. Or, you can accept biology as it is and try and create a fair world based on facts. I choose facts leading to rational fairness. Given the nature of impregnation (relatively fast - wham bam thank you mam) and the nature of gestation (9+ months) there is no rational world where a "right to be informed" will exist. That is unless the "consent form" he keeps has a tear off "Whose yer' daddy" portion that she keeps if she gets pregnant.

But you're absolutely right on learning to choose better partners. There are programs for women - where are the ones for men?

You seem woefully in need of an introduction to Paul Elam and Karen, Alison, et al.

[–]englishfury 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

He shouldn't have any, it is her choice.

But what I do support is financial abortion, if she wants a baby and he doesn't then that responsibility is on her. this also help protect against male rape victims and women who lie about taking the pill or poke holes in condoms to get pregnant and therefore 18 years of child support.

[–]chocoboat 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

There are none, and there shouldn't be. No one other than the woman gets to decide whether the woman goes through pregnancy and gives birth.

[–]ThePigmanAgain 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Simplistic. Someone has to represent the unborn child.

[–]chocoboat 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The unborn child doesn't need a representative. First of all, in most cases of abortion the father is completely on board with it.

Second, we can assume by default that the preference of the fetus would be to get to be born and live a full life. But this does not mean it is entitled to make use of the woman's body against her will, or that this preference should be forced upon the woman by the power of the government.

[–]Mackowatosc 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Fine, but why a mam is to pay child support later for a kid he did not consent to having?

The consent was for sex, not a baby? Then its female on male rape.

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