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Female, 17, charged with knife-point rape of 19-year-old man

Therealjoedirt

January 19, 2017
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http://www.mlive.com/news/saginaw/index.ssf/2017/01/female_17_charged_with_knife-p.html
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Title Female, 17, charged with knife-point rape of 19-year-old man
Author

Therealjoedirt

Upvotes 756
Comments 72
Date January 19, 2017 3:57 AM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/PussyPassDenied
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/5oue9l/female_17_charged_with_knifepoint_rape_of/
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[–][deleted] 95 points96 points97 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

Genuinely surprised the man didn't get charged with statutory rape instead, since she's still technically underage.

[–]iAesc 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Underage at 17?

[–][deleted] 34 points35 points36 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

In Michigan (just like in 90% of the world) you're not legally an adult until 18.

[–]MLKane 41 points42 points43 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

I actually believe most of the world is around 16

[–][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You're thinking of Age of Consent laws, but you're right. It wouldn't be statutory rape because 17 is old enough to consent, but they're still not legally an adult either. Didn't factor that into my original comment.

[–]MLKane 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You're right, sorry my mistake, I was thinking AoC, although the age at which you are tried as an adult varies around the world much younger than 18 too, it depends on the crime, for example if an offense is bad enough to be tried in Crown Court (big shit like murder and rape) then at least in the UK someone can be tried as an adult much younger than 18.

For example, although their names were not released to the public (rightly IMO) both of the 10 year old boys convicted of murder in the James Bulger case were tried as adults, although they stand as the youngest convicted murderers in British history, so it's an outside case.

[–]johnnyshotclock 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Not in the middle east. It's like 5 there. Lol

[–]Dariszaca 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Actually most of the world is 16 (in a lot of places its lower than that)

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/5oue9l/female_17_charged_with_knifepoint_rape_of/dcmt73e/

[–]Dariszaca 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just making sure you heard it

[–]FictionalLightbulb 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

actually, it varies.

[–]Dariszaca 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

actually, age is just a number

[–]djasonpenney -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Typically they don't call statutory if the age difference is less than three years.

Though I have salacious curiosity how she posed a credible threat while engaged in sex...

[–]katievsbubbles 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Uh... read the article OR EVEN THE TITLE.

She pulled a knife on the guy.

[–]gloworm00 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was wondering that too. I get that she had a knife, but how is she holding a knife to his throat, in a genuinely threatening way, while her face is on his $&@$?

[–]Valac_I whiteKnight for fatties 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Are you fucking joking or just stupid?

[–]Hanzo44 23 points24 points25 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

In other news, man ordered to pay child support despite being raped. More at 11.

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 68 points69 points70 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That is one ugly fucker.

[–]CynixCS points 9 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Probably why she needed the knife in the first place.

[–]justthebloops points 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

glances at knife

glances back at ugly

glances at soft penis

This isn't working for me, do you have a gun?

[–]CynixCS 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here you go

[–]gntrr 156 points157 points158 points 9 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

I feel like we're forgetting what this sub is about. It's not about female criminals. It's about females that try to use their gender to get out something and then are hit with the book anyway. IMO, this doesn't exemplify that.

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points65 points 9 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

In my state (Idaho), women legally can't rape men.

Men can be raped, but according to the legislation, only by other men, because being raped is defined specifically as having a penis forcefully inserted into one of their own openings against ones will/ability to consent.

There's nothing about coercion of having your penis be put inside someones vagina while they, say, have a knife at your neck or a gun to your head.

As a side note, I'm not sure what a judge would say if a woman used a strap-on. It's not a real penis, does it count? Interesting.

Anyways, so my point is this is nice for me, personally, at least.

[–]Killerkendolls 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Strap on would probably be considered sodomy.

[–]Not_An_Ambulance 11 points12 points13 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm a lawyer, and on a few different topics I've looked up laws in every state to compare them all. Idaho is literally always the furthest behind. Like, every state will be a little different, but then Idaho is the only one where you go "I thought everyone changed that back in the 80s?!".

[–]eyemadeanaccount 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So in Idaho, you could tie a woman up against her will, insert a speculum, and have a bunch of guys throw a big pussy bukkake party and none of you would get charged with rape because no penis was ever inserted into any opening, let alone forcefully.
I know there's unlawful restraint and sodomy, but that's ridiculous there wouldn't be a rape charge.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yes, it is ridiculous. But that's the way it's written here.

[–]eyemadeanaccount 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Brb, got a "party" to plan with OP's mom.

[–]mattidor 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm also from Idaho and can confirm that we have some ass backwards laws here.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

But we've got the best damn potatoes.

[–]mattidor 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Anyway, like I was sayin', potatoes is the fruit of the farm. You can barbecue it, boil it, broil it, bake it, saute it. Dey's uh, potato-kabobs, potato creole, potato gumbo. Pan fried, deep fried, stir-fried. There's pineapple potato, lemon potato, coconut potato, pepper potato, potato soup, potato stew, potato salad, potatoes and potatoes, potato burger, potato sandwich. That- that's about it." - If Bubba was from Idaho

[–][deleted] 52 points53 points54 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

She was charged with raping a male. You don't think she figured she'd get away with it? There's some PPD in this story, but nothing to make a spectacle about.

[–]kurisu7885 29 points30 points31 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Especially since the usual "logic" is that men can't be raped.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Women get probation or their case dismissed if they rape in my state. I would say this definitely qualifies as a pussy pass getting denied since she had to suffer the same consequences that any male rapist would have to suffer.

[–]morerokk 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Read the sidebar

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Po' young promising girl. She was a 4.0 honor roll student just getting her life together.

[–]Blargface102 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[EXPERIMENT] RED HOT GLOWING 1000 DEGREE KNIFE VS. 19 YEAR-OLD!!! [GONE SEXUAL] [GONE VIOLENT]

[–]rootfiend 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

beat me to it

[–]Officer_Dick_Johnson 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You were planing to rape that guy yourself?

[–]rootfiend 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

No I want someone to jerk me off to this story

[–]Officer_Dick_Johnson 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Is...is that a knife? (gulp)

[–]KingMong 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a dude, that's gonna be a dude

[–]silentborders 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol and people say we not from monkeys

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 9 years ago* (24 children) | Copy Link

Excuse if this sounds like a stupid question, but exactly how does female on male rape work? How are you supposed to get an erection when threatened by a knife?

Edit: Why are people downvoting this though? I cannot speak for anyone else but I know that if some ugly bitch was threatening me with a knife I wouldn't be able to get one.

[–]Nightshot 25 points26 points27 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Much in the same way that a woman gets wet while getting raped at knifepoint: It's a biological reaction that you have no control over.

[+]furrowsmiter -11 points-10 points-9 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Jesus.

[–]sharkbaitzero 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

That's right, no one fucks with the Jesus.

[–]Officer_Dick_Johnson 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

8 year old, dude…

[–]adonis8 points 9 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

You don't seem to understand his question. Of course, everyone already knows what you said. The point of the question was wouldn't the fear overpower the natural biological response. It's a good point. If the dude was truly petrified, I doubt he could get a hard on. That, coupled with the fact such female on male rape is extremely rare, makes me doubt that it happened as the article suggests.

[–]Nightshot 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The same you're saying can be applied to any woman. Wouldn't the fear overpower her biological response to get wet? If the girl was truly petrified, she wouldn't be able to get wet, going by your logic. The reason it's so rare is because it's unarguably more difficult. Men, naturally, have an advantage in physical strength over a woman. That makes it easier for a man to rape a woman, and on the flip-side, makes it more difficult for a woman to rape a man. He either needs to be weak/she needs to be strong/both, or she needs a weapon.

[–]seniorscubasquid points 9 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

An erection is not a sign of consent. It's a biological response to stimulus. Erections are handled by your subconscious, and consent requires consciousness.
Much in the same way that, while you could hire a hooker and give her like six orgasms or whatever, it doesn't mean she'll want to do it for free.

[–]kurisu7885 13 points14 points15 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Morning Wood is a perfect example.

[–]Officer_Dick_Johnson 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's true. Most vulnerable to get raped.

Be safe boys.

[–]dakoellis 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think his point with the question is that fearing for your life seems like something that would cause an erection to go down

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Getting an erection isn't really difficult unless you have ED. Especially considering this dude was, what, 19?

As others have said, erections aren't always willful either. Someone rubs against my dick enough it's going to respond, whether I'm actually interested or not, because it's just a dick it doesn't know any better. All an erection is, is blood rushing into the spongy tissue filling the veins/capillaries up and it's a natural response to stimulation of the nerve endings there.

Yes, you can give yourself an erection by thinking about things that turn you on, or seeing things that turn you on, or by rubbing it. But it can also happen unwillingly. Like it someone else rubs it. Or while you're asleep (morning wood).

[–]manmikey 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Very good points there Saskei, I've had an unwanted boner from the vibrations of a petrol pump when you're kind of squashed against it

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I used to get one in a school bus every single day. There was a really bumpy patch of road right before the stop at school that made the whole bus vibrate. Really awkward, always pop a boner right before getting off the bus and into the school yard.

I wasn't the only one either, we called them bus boners.

[–]8kscrub points 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

not necessarily I would say, there are a lot of young guys sometimes having problems achieving erections with their girlfriends also there is this thing called performance anxiety, some prostitutes would even say that older guys are much more likely to get hard than young guys

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Performance anxiety is real, but when you're not actually trying to perform I'm not sure how much it comes into play.

Regardless, even if that does mean it's hard to get some guys hard, there's still plenty out there where it's not. Including myself. So it's still something that needs to be considered for legislative purposes I think.

[–]nickesq 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The headline is misleading, she wasn't charged with rape, her actual criminal charge was first-degree criminal sexual conduct. There is a difference. There is also no mention of the victims state of physical arousal. Vaginal intercourse does not require an erection in the eyes of the law.

[–]The_YakuzaThe score is wrong, bitch 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There has been some cases where the female force feed the male Viagra. Idk if it happen here or not tho.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I doubt it was like she jumped out of a dark alley and raped him at knifepoint. I don't think it's possible to get hard in that kind of situation.

Alternately maybe she just held the knife on him while humping his leg.

Who really knows, there are no details in the article. But given how the sympathetic and parasympathetic nervous system work I don't think it's possible to get a boner when you're terrified of dying. Maybe she pulled the knife and put it away after he agreed to fuck her which certainly qualifies as rape.

[–]SemiColonHorror -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

what

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I said 'How are you supposed to get an erection when threatened by a knife?'

[+]captblackfang -33 points-32 points-31 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Close your eyes forget about the knife and pretend it's someone you want sucking your dick.

[–]seniorscubasquid points 9 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Fuck off.

[+]captblackfang -9 points-8 points-7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok

[–]Justincouldbemyname 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

See women do not get sex so easily!!!! /s

[–]kragshot -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Here's the really fucked up part about this; look at her picture. This is only a minor victory because if she was a relatively attractive white woman, she probably would not have even been indicted. The alleged rapist is a thuggish-looking African-American girl.

The only good thing about this case is that they at least didn't blast his picture all over the newspaper.

[+]Drum_Stick_Ninja points 9 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I've always found females raping males to be odd. I mean, you gotta turn them on to get the dick hard so....

[–]Idrkc 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

U/seniorscubasquid said it better than I could https://www.reddit.com/r/pussypassdenied/comments/5oue9l/female_17_charged_with_knifepoint_rape_of/dcmg942/?st=iy4u41z2&sh=d4b42bb9

[–]KingMong -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Your an idiot, you never had an erecting you didn't want? Your dick reacts to stimulus, of somebody sucks your dick, it will get hard almost every time, woman orgasm during rape quite often, the fear chemical make you more sensitive, so it's not that difficult.

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