How do you get over the bitterness?

Dembara · 2017-01-04T12:13:43+00:00

I've found most women, like men, are decent people. They take advantage of the advantages allotted to them. I know if I had those advantages I would do the same.

I find it good to take a step back from the political often. If you have a hobby, take some time to focus on that, for example.

I hope this helps!

JestyerAverageJoe · 2017-01-04T16:06:08+00:00

Don't become the thing you hate. Women, just like men, are a mixed bag. Some are saints, some are monsters, and most are just trying to get by.

Women are people and men are people.

Edited to add: Am married. Wife is amazing. We talk about men's issues.

Seriously. You're mad at how feminists talk about "men?" Same thing.

Unconfidence · 2017-01-04T19:54:25+00:00

All bigotry stems from people not understanding the fallacy of composition.

There's no reason to hate a group on the basis of the ideology of some, unless it is an ideological group.

2017-01-04T12:45:46+00:00

Work on being happy on the inside, you can then carry that anywhere you go.

Lupinfujiko · 2017-01-04T16:25:19+00:00

Thank you for sharing man.

I think a lot of us feel that way. I certainly do. I feel like the last 2-3 years have been particularly difficult; and that's directly because of the political environment of the times.

I recommend taking a class or getting a hobby.

Last year I took an improv class, and wow was that ever a good idea. I met people my age, and we all hung out. It felt almost like reinventing myself; i completely avoided the political conversation, and there was less animosity in general overall.

I've taken several other classes, and they are all beneficial. Either you learn something, or you meet somebody. Either way, it keeps your brain fresh.

On the hobbies side, I pulled out my guitar which I hadn't played in five years. It felt great. It felt different, new. That helped the loneliness as well.

There's a lot more to say here obviously. But I think our 2-3 years of being yelled down and shut out is finally coming to an end. Times are changing. Believe in yourself. If you keep banging your head against the wall, you'll probably keep getting the same headache. Try changing the game. ie - stop trying to change the blue pills of the world, and try to enjoy your life to the fullest. With time, they will see what we see; they just need time.

2017-01-04T21:05:43+00:00

The first thing I want to ask is:

How recent has this cynicism and bitterness taken hold of you?

RunsInJeans · 2017-01-04T15:31:24+00:00

Look man, you've made some pretty important realizations about the nature of women and society in general. As a result of this awareness you've taken steps to protect yourself from the potential consequences. What percentage of men do you think are in as an enlightened and well defended state as you? Things are actually looking pretty good for you!

When enough of us have pulled out of the "game" it begins to have a noticeable effect on women as it becomes harder and harder for them to find a partner. I find this funny and it makes me happy. lol MGTOW!

EvolvingRedneck · 2017-01-04T15:59:43+00:00

You get over it by figuring yourself out. I can't give you any solid answers. But, introspection is key to mastering negative emotions.

I felt like you not too long ago; angry and bitter. Then I realized it was me. I was ingesting negativity. Constantly reading news that would cause outrage in myself. I was beginning to think the world is full of bastard coated bastards with bastard filling. Yet, when I interacted with people in real life, expecting to find everything true according to what I read on the net, I was at first disappointed. Soon I realized I was creating a world from what I read, and what I read was mostly negative.

As I said, I can't tell you where to begin. But you might try meditation. Examine where your thoughts go. Do they help or hurt you?

contractor808 · 2017-01-04T15:55:45+00:00

You could put that energy into volunteer work. Veterans and homeless charities could use the help.

Tmomp · 2017-01-04T17:01:21+00:00

It sounds like you're getting a one-sided view.

What would you say to a woman who saw men the way you saw women? Probably to meet more men and learn that they aren't the caricature she got from not meeting them and only hearing about the worst of them.

2017-01-04T20:02:04+00:00

I'm not afraid to admit that part of this is that I hate women.

hating women will not make you happy... I don't recommend it.

It's not just that they benefit from female privledge. It's not even that the majority don't acknowledge or care.

if you flip this, it sounds a lot like a feminist script. "men do not even acknowledge their privilege." just calm down a second and realize most PEOPLE aren't that well off. Not many are making a shit ton, most struggle to get by.

How the fuck are you supposed to respect people like that?

by realizing that not only women are feminists, and that feminists make up only 10% of any given population. They are not a majority, they just act like it.

I find myself lonely and desperately wanting to talk to/date women, but I just can't let myself do it on account of how risky things are for me as a male in the facet of relationships. The last thing I'd want is to do something dumb like have sex or god forbid get married. And I'm sure you know that's just scratching the surface of the bad things that can happen. Honestly I'm just wary of being around women in general since they can easily take advantage of the fact that men are second class citizens.

and this is what not to do. Go meet women, just be careful with your knowledge, Go after the smart ones, other MRAs, avoid feminists like the plague. If you do that, it will be alright. Most people are just like you or me, decent, wanting to feel loved, and wanting to just get by.

It's just safer alone in my room.

If you want to improve yourself or your life, go live it... It's alright man. Just find a hobby, join a gym, do something to help you.

Of course I try to reach out to family and friends about it, but they're all blue pill cucks that won't even wake the fuck up and see what is going on, even when presented with good evidence. It's enough to make me rage and want to tell them what dumb shits they are. I really wish someone I know in person could just provide some support on this, but I have no one like that.

sitting in your room will not help you find people like you. Put yourself out there, go talk to people, make yourself known.

As much as I try to not think about MRA stuff, my mind always drifts back there. Is that a good thing or not? I don't know...

yeah, that's fine. I do that too. It's normal to dwell on confusing topics, just do not let it change your life for the worse.

Lethn · 2017-01-04T12:56:13+00:00

I find myself lonely and desperately wanting to talk to/date women, but I just can't let myself do it on account of how risky things are for me as a male in the facet of relationships.

To be honest, I'm kind of in the same situation, I have no problem making friends with women though, dating is another matter entirely but I think it largely depends on the type of people you hang out with.

Sounds to me that like me you probably need to get out in the world and explore other cultures and communities. I know full well not everyone is like these damn feminists and I've had the misfortune of being born in the most feminist infested countries of them all the UK which is pretty much like Canada where even if people may not all necessarily agree with these nutters they roll over for them at every opportunity.

Saving up for a holiday somewhere where there's far less left wing bullshit might be a viable option for you, it could also give you an excuse to get out more to earn money and so on, you'll also probably find yourself a lot less stressed out if you find a really nice place to hang out where women don't treat men like shit.

Speaking of, which country are you from if you don't mind me asking? It might explain your situation.

1971Sunshine · 2017-01-04T20:50:46+00:00

Be glad you can openly say you hate women. If you were on TwoXChromosomes and said you hate men you would get downvoted like crazy.

JestyerAverageJoe · 2017-01-04T21:18:36+00:00

I feel the same way, luckily, I'm gay, so yeah, gays need women like fish needs bicycle? But I think there are still some decent ones I think

Title	How do you get over the bitterness?
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Date	January 4, 2017 12:09 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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