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[–]trampson 51 points52 points53 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
THIS is helping boys.
Not shaming them, not having a go at their masculinity, not indoctrinating them in feminist theory, not drugging them, but relaying very basic life skills, helping those too poor to afford some basic respectable clothes, showing some fucking empathy, and showing good male traits.
[–]TheVillageWay 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Thanks. Have an up vote.
[–][deleted] 21 points22 points23 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How soon until it gets shut down for excluding girls?
[–]Leinadro 34 points35 points36 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems to have a mostly black boy membership. Misandrists would think twice about going after it because they dont want to appear to be racist.
If it were all white boys and men it would already be shut down.
[–]sabelaw 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A gentleman's club? I've heard of those. Sign me up!
[–]sayshey 12 points13 points14 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You know what else would be helpful? If they stopped taking kids away from their dads in family court, and sending kid's dads to prison for low level drug offenses.
Not taking anything away from this guy, good for him, but the fact we need this is fucked up.
[–]Lord_of_Skulls 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If it teaches them confidence, I'm all for it.
If there's any sort of "manners" involved, especially where those manners include being subservient to women, protecting women, etc. then that shit can go out with the rest of the trash from the Middle Ages. Masculinity isn't chivalry, and chivalry isn't masculinity.
[–]MagicTampon 7 points8 points9 points 9 years ago* (20 children) | Copy Link
Poor little kids standing with nooses around their necks.
I remember when articles about this club came out in the press. Sounds like the usual "ladies first" bullcrap they push on boys from a young age. Nothing truly empowering or different from the usual crap boys are forced to suffer through in schools these days.
For example:
http://acculturated.com/gentlemans-club/
Memminger meet to discuss a new aspect of etiquette and self-presentation such as how to shake hands, make eye contact, open doors for ladies, and address their elders.
Bzzt... open doors for "ladies"?
Sorry, none of that "ladies first" horse crap is appropriate to teach children anymore. Teach boys never to treat a woman as their better. Do you teach girls to make sandwiches for the boys in school? No. So why on earth would you teach boys to open doors for females? They're not personal butlers for females -- they are there to learn.
But the Gentleman’s Club training goes beyond appearance to include manners, which are also in short supply these days, and cultivating a sense of chivalry toward girls and women
Yeah, this is yet another example of why schools really rot for boys these days. They've succeeded in removing all authentic male role models from boys' lives, then attempt to replace them with these sorts of foolish mannequins and caricatures of normal behavior.
Meanwhile, their mostly female teachers run about clapping their hands gleefully when observing boys' servile gestures towards females that are elicited out of the vulnerable who won't know better until they are older.
What good little boys!
No, what an utter failure of education.
Our culture is suffering a manhood crisis. The rejection of chivalry as sexism and the decline of gentlemanly standards have left our sons confused about masculinity and led to a corresponding moral degradation of the entire culture.
That's because chivalry IS a sexist construct designed to manipulate and degrade men.
http://www.breitbart.com/video/2016/02/26/south-carolina-teacher-creates-gentlemans-club-to-teach-young-students-to-become-gentlemen/
He should be teaching the boys to wear t-shirts with sassy pro-boy things written on the front of them like all those "strong independent schoolgirls" do nowadays.
This program is already an utter failure. Not empowering. Will accomplish nothing of any good.
Here is another web site fawning over this particular program, while equating "politeness" in the boys to the training of dogs:
Article from "Woman's world" talking about this particular program: http://www.womansworld.com/posts/this-elementary-school-group-redefines-gentlemen-s-club-in-the-best-way-92598 Following the link in the article at the word "politeness" leads here: http://www.womansworld.com/posts/dogs-prove-they-re-the-most-polite-animals-ever-by-lining-up-for-a-hysterical-reason-89303
Article from "Woman's world" talking about this particular program: http://www.womansworld.com/posts/this-elementary-school-group-redefines-gentlemen-s-club-in-the-best-way-92598
Following the link in the article at the word "politeness" leads here: http://www.womansworld.com/posts/dogs-prove-they-re-the-most-polite-animals-ever-by-lining-up-for-a-hysterical-reason-89303
Incredible!
[–]Sasha_ 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Fuck only knows why you're being down-voted because that's my first thought as well.
It's like with no father at home there's a danger these boys might grow-up knowing they live in a depressing, gyno-centric society in which men, always disposable, are now more disposable than ever thanks to a culture dominated by consumption, advertising and exploitation.
"Put your tie straight son, hold your head-up high, open the door for the lady's. Yes I hear-ya, I know they look like skanky-welfare whores in-the-making - but trust me they're really princesses..."
[–]MagicTampon 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good to hear from a kindred soul.
If this were a program in my school, I would be much enraged.
Men being "gentlemen" is what slowly kills us all.
[–]elebrin 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There are times when it's appropriate, and times when it isn't necessary. I won't hold the door for every woman on the planet, but I sure as shit hold the door for my Mom or her friends. Learning how to act like a traditional gentleman without being awkward is a skill men need and should learn. That doesn't mean it needs to be used 100% of the time.
[–]MagicTampon 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I wouldn't make any special effort to hold the door open for my mom. Not any different from my dad, at any rate.
[–]elebrin 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I do, for my mother and sister. They are good people for putting up with me when I am an asshole. Which is pretty regularly.
[–]MagicTampon 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They are good people for putting up with me when I am an asshole.
I'm not assuming that you don't have good reason for being as "asshole."
[–]trampson 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I've got the top upvoted comment in this thread championing what's in OP's photo, but completely agree if it is indeed going beyond just what's in the photo.
LOL good on you!
[–]Schmidty6990 -4 points-3 points-2 points 9 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Opening doors for women is just fine dude. It's tradition. I'm from the south, and trust me it's not about any "girls first" bs, it's just polite.
[–]Rasalom72 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
politely sexist... stop pretending the "traditions" are anything but manipulation. It's also tradition that a woman would never hit a man.. but where has that tradition gone?
They don't get to be strong independent women and do all the things men can do, AND be delicate flowers who need a man to protect and take care of them. And unfortunately for those women who want option 2, that's being destroyed by feminists.
[–]Schmidty6990 -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Did I say anything about hitting girls or any of that? If I want to open the door for a woman, and teach my son to do the same I damn well will. Sometimes people get too sensitive about things.
[–]Rasalom72 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
So you are going to pick and choose which "traditions" you are going to pass on? How about you teach your children (of any gender) that men and women should be treated equally.. or at the very least teach them that it's sexist to treat one gender differently.
[–]Schmidty6990 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I think you're reading into this just a little too far. I'm going to raise my kids the way I was raised, it seems to have worked out ok for me.
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[–]Schmidty6990 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, it's just a door. If it makes your panties unwad themselves I'll tell him to open the door for everyone. I feel like I just told someone on tumblr that I'm raising my son to call people sir and ma'am. Fuck.
[+][deleted] 9 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
If/when I have a daughter I'll tell her she should respect her husband (or wife) however they deserve.
I don't know, I haven't met her yet xD Edit: I'll ask her when I do though.
Oh I'm sure they're jamming a heck of a lot more dumb shit down their throats than just opening the door.
After being psychologically beat down and told women are their superiors for years and years, the last thing boys need to be told is to "hold open doors" for women.
Get of your hobby horse and stop jousting windmills.
[–]omegaphallic 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is ab excellent, excellent idea.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is great until it is used as another crutch that is supposed to supplement a missing father.
Moreover, programs like this all too often cut into instructional and/or study time.
[–]feedmecarrots 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am surprised that this is going on because it is promting dignity in boys. Feminists won't like that.
[–]SolongStarbird 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This makes me happy.
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