The pill has me conflicted af

_the_shape_ · 2017-07-17T02:06:14+00:00

Its all fucking fake.

See, that's where you're wrong and possibly "conflicted" - it's actually all "fucking real", only now you're seeing through "the fake" to the truth.

People seek value in some way, shape, or form, all the time, and often look for ways to 'level up'. Surprise!

There's real joy in offering value to others though. The basic idea is to become 'valuable' first while learning to say no along the way (yes, there are manipulators and value-leeches out there, but don't fret - they're not the majority)

You'll probably snap out of it gradually with time. Set goals, achieve them, learn from those above you (that's a transmission of value right there), and offer advice to those below you (transmission of value again).

Keep on your journey.

princeali97 · 2017-07-17T01:04:00+00:00

It happens, push through it. Its your psyche going into shock because your reality is shifted.

Chill with friends, keep lifting, maybe get some coo. Itll all pass, depending on your emotional intelligence it could be a month or a year just dont stress it.

JackGetsIt · 2017-07-17T03:35:43+00:00

A part of me wants absolutely nothing to do with people and i just wanna be left alone seeing that every interaction with everyone has a underlying motive

Listen. This isn't just taking the redpill. This is a general existential crisis. When you become educated and see how something works it's always a bit discordant; then if you follow the rabbit hole you see a lot of things that have lots of underlying motives that you didn't previously see. One of my favorite books is a collection of essays written by James Baldwin titled, "The Fire Next Time" when he was a middle schooler he fell into the church hardcore and was moving towards becoming a full fledged preacher. Then he started noticing shit about his church, higher ups not being very christian, stealing from the donations, and his world basically collapses. He does a great job of describing in great detail his shattered world view and preceding crisis of faith and conscious. Highly recommend.

I'm not going to give you a solution. I don't have one. I spend everyday looking for my own. But think about it. Do you really want to be put back into the battery? Now that your out and you have a lot more awareness. Which you is a better you?

You have to understand that the previous you was set up to fail. You are now in a unique position to bring women into your life if that's what you want. You can now do it with a more realistic picture and a safer position. You will have a better chance of avoiding divorce rape and other dangers some women offer. Can you imagine unplugging at 35 or 55 or on your deathbed? I'm thankful everyday that I'm closer to reality and truth.

As far as loneliness is concerned. That's just part life (especially modern western life). As I'm sure you've learned on your initial readings women don't cure loneliness. There are a lot of men out there surrounded by women and they're lonely as fuck. Loneliness is just part of responsibility and adulthood. There are a lot of good post in the archives about coping, embracing, and re-framing what loneliness really is. Mediation helps with this process as well.

WhorehouseVet · 2017-07-17T02:18:56+00:00

You're stuck in the anger phase. Acknowledge it, then move on to do things that'll keep your mind occupied.

SkorchZang · 2017-07-17T06:49:47+00:00

Temporary stage. Have fun with the rage and the amazing focus it brings.

FlyingSexistPig · 2017-07-17T05:13:38+00:00

denial
anger <-- You are here.
bargaining
depression
acceptance

lookoutitscaleb · 2017-07-17T08:26:23+00:00

Literally just went through this.

It's a stage in the process.

Keep chugging away.

batfish55 · 2017-07-17T11:26:39+00:00

Could be worse. You could have wasted your 20s buying into the bullshit. When you get older...you just can't make yourself give a shit anymore.

You're young. Get angry. Go/Say/Do whatever you want. Now that you know the real rules, adjust.

DantehMawn · 2017-07-17T06:53:23+00:00

I feel this so much right now

electrogenisis · 2017-07-17T09:39:41+00:00

In my experience TRP isn't really my lifestyle. I read it because I find female psychology interesting and a tool I can use in my life when I want to. I don't take it as serious as some people.

I don't lift to make myself better than other guys. I lift because I want to improve myself and make me feel better about myself lmao. If that means some girls are slightly more interested then that's cool, but TRP shouldn't be the main reason why you do things it should be something you think about or consider in certain situations.

Some things written on this sub are very true however in my own experience some things written on here are not. It all comes down to your own personal experience and what you observe in your life.

Don't take things written on here as the truth if you haven't seen it for yourself. Everything is subjective.

Don't take TRP to heart if you don't want to.

Nergaal · 2017-07-17T10:03:38+00:00

It's called depression. Find a goal and achieve it. Then depression will leave you.

Jsieijejeieokkd · 2017-07-17T12:18:10+00:00

At least you realized this now. Push though this, what is past is past. Look to the future.

PantsonFire1234 · 2017-07-20T22:52:51+00:00

What you are feeling is your normal drive. I think it's hilarious that TRP explains so carefully about female double nature but doesn't talk about mens double strategy. Men want to spread seed and rule over specific seeds. Simple as that. The first is accomplished by your scatter shot tactic. This is why guys would fuck a girl with multiple bros or why he would fuck some native hoe while on 'vacation'. It's why guys have no problem being in a relationship and fucking a girl on the side. In stark contrast to girls. Next is the male nature to govern, to rule and oversee the best prospects. This is primarily a white/arab/asian thing, sorry black guys but I don't see it in your culture. I just don't.

The problem is that in our modern day society women are destroyed, ruined. Alpha men might be scarce, but so are alpha women. What you are feeling is the natural urge to rule over a womans womb whom you know is 100% yours. This used to be somewhat easy to control back in the day. Now with modern day feminism and mobile finger locked phones, not so much. This is part of your sexual imperative screaming out in emptyness. Modern day men are the equivalent of the 30s arranged marriage girl who got paired off with a massive beta. She yearns alpha Chad but will be forever doomed to this beta hell. Look into all of this and I can promise you it will feel better once you know what's happening in your brain, not just that of a womans.

There are still girls who somewhat fit the bill. But you have to be careful. When you meet a girl your first instinct should be to consider her a plate. Lots of guys do so in reverse and this is ineffective. It means you aren't slut testing your girl honestly since you want to believe she's virtuous by default. Where women consider good looking men to be Alpha by default and shit test them down, men should consider women worthless sluts until they promote themselves by passing slut tests.

The biggest mistake you can make is to either be bitter and never get to know a woman or to get to know one and never ask her the questions that matter. What works best for me is to adopt a facade of not being judgmental. Then I ask about things like their cock count, sexual fantasies and so forth. If I hear about weird old man kinks, gangbang shit or pornstar levels of cock I zone out and permanently demote to plate. It's comparable to a girl going sexually cold on a guy she shit tested into a beta.

So to reiterate, what you are experiencing is normal and not beta or blue pill at all. How you respond to it will however.

Pitchfork51 · 2017-07-17T01:47:05+00:00

I find it hard to relate to this mindset.

Guys that girls think are hot tend to do better with women? How is this new?

Friends add value to each other's lives or what's the point?

Girls aren't all virgins?

Title	The pill has me conflicted af
Author	winu96
Upvotes	28
Comments	17
Date	July 17, 2017 12:52 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/askTRP
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