Why can women tell men what to do with their body but not vice versa?

mpsunshine37 · 2016-08-18T16:34:37+00:00

I hear feminists complain about "man spreading" and I often wonder why is it such a big deal. Feminists want to be able to make decisions on...

[–]Lethn 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

This is purely from their perspective so it's not my actual opinion. Feminists think that because men rule the world with a patriarchy they therefore 'cannot' be discriminated against in their heads in order to be victimised as an ethnic group it has to be done by a government or institution.

This is of course a load of bullshit, but that's how they justify it, they think that just because a small percentage of white men happen to be the ones running everything the rest of us are guilty by association. They are in fact pretty much using the same sort of logic that Nazis used against the Jews except their demonisation is painting people on a much more wider scope and ironically they often don't do a damn thing about anti-semitism because Jews are white so they're also a part of the 'patriarchy'.

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[–]reddreadbeenborn 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Feminist of the not nazi feminist sjw variety,Our views is that humans should be equal regardless of everything. The current state of affairs in most places and most scenarios lends an upper hand to men. Now true feminist due not believe we should rip away mens rights to build ours, there is enough room for everyone already we just havent all reached the top yet. And there are places where it women with the advantage. Again we acknowledge that and hope you do not believe in destroying our rights to build up your rights there.

Mansplaining is a minor inconvenience experienced through the joys of public transportation. If there are very few seats on the bus and I am tired and want to sit down, fair doenst dictate I have more right than you to sit, fair dictates that hopefully there is enough room and hopefully is someone is taking a bit of extra space they will be kind enough to offer it to a another, as with the elderly or pregnant. I am equally vexed by a fat individual taking up to seats as I am by your spreading your legs out so two seats are seemingly occupied.

There is no world where a sane person could truly make an authentic correlation between abortion rights and man spreading.

[–]Lethn 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

Feminist of the not nazi feminist sjw variety,Our views is that humans should be equal regardless of everything. The current state of affairs in most places and most scenarios lends an upper hand to men.

Yeah yeah, I've heard it all before, you claim to be for equal rights and then immediately declare that 'most' scenarios benefit men despite the fact that MRAs have mountains of evidence to show otherwise. The facts just aren't on your side in the western world, in the middle east? Absolutely, there is a literal patriarchy for you to confront but you lot are absolute cowards and refuse to do so because it might mean you'll actually have to make a difference and fight for your beliefs. Meanwhile it's easier to go around harassing a bunch of 'evil' white men who would otherwise protect and care for you as best they can and treat you like human beings.

Reading your post is very much like a Muslim trying to convince me they're moderate you pretend to be calm and understanding but when it comes to your ideology you people really do have tourettes syndrome and just can't help blurting out "HURR MEN!" at the first opportunity.

The current state of affairs in most places and most scenarios lends an upper hand to men.

Just in case you try to pretend that's not what you wrote, the current state of affairs is not 'men' it's actually a tiny percentage of men that benefit from this system and you're trying to blame the whole gender for it and have the fucking gall to act as if you care about equality.

[–]reddreadbeenborn 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I could go into history, facts, every single thing I have experienced and you will still find a way to blame all of that on me being a female feminist, so here is a perspective from someone who has experienced both being male and being female on how he is treated as a man, and this is only really in regards to social situations not even job related financial related or the millions of other things that go into life:

I’m Suddenly Funny

I’ve always been dry, sarcastic, and satirical with my humor.

In Ye Olden Times, I was considered unfunny at best – and a bitch at worst.

Now that I’m a short white guy, people automatically peg me for a comedian and laugh at the bulk of my mouth zings.

But nothing has changed. I’ve even recycled some of my old material that people didn’t find funny before just to make sure.

Yet I’m Still Taken (More) Seriously

I’m still amazed at the amount of people that now immediately shut their mouths the second I open mine.

Believe me, my ideas haven’t improved at all.

I’ve even tried to derail serious conversations with ludicrous stuff just to see what would happen – and I’d still be regarded highly.

I Rarely Get Interrupted

I used to be interrupted so often while presenting as a woman that I in turn started to talk over people as a form of conversational survival.

Unfortunately, because it became so ingrained in me, I still find myself doing it from time to time even though it’s rarely necessary anymore.

I Get Paid More

The proof is in my paychecks. Actual, numerical proof.

It’s Easier for Me to Be Poor

Aside from usually getting paid more, it’s been easier to find work when the person doing the hiring is a white guy.

It’s like helping out a buddy or something.

My Clothing Is More Practical

And better made and longer lasting and cheaper and less judged…

I Get a Ton of Free Passes

For the record, I’ve never done anything horrific enough to invoke the all-saving phrase of “Boys will be boys,” but I often forget to watch my mouth in front of superiors and authority figures.

And while I was getting into tons of trouble for the smallest thing through school and my earliest jobs, these days I can’t recall a single time I’ve been called out or reprimanded.

I’m Not Held Accountable for Keeping Rape from Happening

I remember all of the rape prevention education I got, which always focused on how I should behave, where I should walk when, how to appropriately cover my drink, and so on.

These days, I’m told nothing. Not even not to rape.

I’m Very Likely to Arrive Home Safely After Walking Alone at Night

Assuming nobody is out looking to f-g bash, but that’s a somewhat different matter.

It remains that I walk alone at night far more than I used to purely because I’m a dude.

Put up my hoodie, and people have even been known to cross the sidewalk to avoid passing me.

I Don’t Have to Worry About Keeping an Eye on My Drink at Parties and Social Gatherings

Unless it’s at a gay venue where there seem to be some questionable, creepy chickenhawks around, drink safety doesn’t even cross my mind anymore.

I’m Not Told by Strangers (Or Anybody Else) to Smile

Not once has it happened since.

Not once.

I Don’t Have Strangers Giving Uninvited Opinions About My Body as I Pass By

(Or then expecting me to thank them for it).

Again, not once has this happened in the usual, everyday world.

I’m Allowed to Have Body Hair

‘Nuff said.

I’m Allowed to Grow Old

And likely will even be considered “handsome” or “sophisticated” because of it.

I’m Allowed to Eat Without Being Policed

I’m actually still really damn skinny, but people no longer do things like judge me about what I’m eating or ask if I should be eating it at all.

My Abilities Speak Louder Than My Appearances at Work

When I work on-site gigs, I tend to just wear jeans and a t-shirt.

Nobody cares.

It’s all about the quality of my work.

The Bulk of Porn Is Made with Me in Mind

Well, the general sense of a guy who has any sexual interest in women.

Even “lesbian” porn is often geared toward the male gaze.

Older White Guys Treat Me Like a Best Friend

Especially when I have to wear professional slacks and a tie, I’ve been amazed at how many strangers happily strike up conversation with me in this kind of…fatherly way.

Their smiles are warm, their eyes are bright, and they seem eager to bestow any wisdom upon me that I could ever think to ask.

It’s like I’m automatically their patriarchal protégé or something.

I Can Be a Gamer Without Worry of Being Threatened, Insulted, or Demeaned

The gaming industry is still very much a man’s world.

Female characters are frequently sexualized, brutalized, and demeaned when they’re represented at all – right along with the female gamers themselves.

My Comfort Comes Before Anyone Else’s

Nobody expects me to sacrifice a thing for them anymore.

I Have Significantly Less Sexual Liability

I can now have as much sex with as many people as I want and nobody says boo about it.

I’m Allowed to Take Up Space – And Lots of It

If I feel like spreading out on public transportation, nobody – regardless of gender – tells me to move over anymore.

They just act like I have full right to be obnoxious.

(Please note that I’ve only ever done this for experimental purposes.)

I’m Not Subject to ‘Soft’ Sexism

Being asked to grab someone their coffee, help decorate for a work party, or help clean up said party is simply a thing of the past.

People Think My Successes Have Been Made Purely By My Own Gumption

I’ve worked hard, sure, but I’ve also had plenty of luck and help.

People just don’t question my supposed right to be praised anymore, nor imply that I earned what I earned by playing some sort of card.

My same exact successes are somehow now all me, all hard-earned, and all things that had absolutely nothing to do with the cultural system we have in place.

I Can Say the Most Ridiculous Things Imaginable

And people will still think I’m right.

Seriously. I’ve tested this.

http://everydayfeminism.com/2015/05/male-privilege-trans-men/

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Because copy and pasting an article from everdayfeminism is really going to convince me of anything.

I could go into history, facts, every single thing I have experienced and you will still find a way to blame all of that on me being a female feminist.

Instead of posting propaganda from your favourite feminist site, why didn't you go into history and facts? I would have actually respected that, but instead you decided to lazily copy and paste an article that you already linked which was baffling and then only post a tiny paragraph of actual response.

Are you perhaps covering up the fact that really you don't have any argument at all? Maybe you're actually trying to derail the conversation as I see so many political and religious fanatics do by trying to make it all about me or rant about your 'personal experiences' and act as if your feelings matter more than actual facts.

So how about doing a decent job in your next reply and actually trying to reference some facts that back up your claims of an evil patriarchy trying to oppress women, instead of simply making a fool of yourself and making it out like you really are just another idiot feminist trying to pretend you're clever.

I noticed as well that you completely dodged my comment about the middle east and Islam being a literal patriarchy which was predictable.

[–]reddreadbeenborn 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The article was not propaganda it was a man who had previously lived as a woman shedding light into how in certain situations changed only because gender had changed. If you think this has nothing to do with feminism and equality, then I cant change that but its a a bit like refusing to believe you have cancer because it came from a cancer doctor who you didnt want to listen to because he is associated with cancer that you dont want.

But you want history ok here http://www.nwhp.org/resources/womens-rights-movement/history-of-the-womens-rights-movement/ a link to a website detailing the entirety of the women's rights movement or suffrage. This is all exactly the same as information you find in any legitimate source about history and womens rights and mens rights.

Note that in all my previous posts I have never explicitly stated that men have all the rights or rule the world. I acknowledge entirely that in cases of domestic violence rape and child support and in other areas men are unfairly treated.

Also how is providing an article regardless of if you disprove of where it comes from me not at all having an argument. Using references is part of having a refence

Note also that I have conceded to you certain things, as in that there are area where women are favored in law. Notice that I have never attacked you or your rights but have given my point of view fairly respectfully yet your response is in essence an attack on my argumentative skills and a accusation of a cover up of not having an arguments. Lets remain respectful please.

[–]Lethn -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

. Women’s reproductive rights. Whether or not women can terminate pregnancies is still controversial twenty-five years after the Supreme Court ruling in Roe v. Wade affirmed women’s choice during the first two trimesters.

I'm largely pro-choice and I'm fine with the idea of abortion, if you had actually studied this issue you'd realise that aside from the usual pro-lifer arguments one of the main things people get pissy about it the idea of their taxpayer money going towards such a thing especially if it's non-emergency.

. Women’s enrollment in military academies and service in active combat. Are these desirable?

This is a genuine issue, however thanks to afirmitive action and other programs where standards have been deliberately lowered for women it has given far too much ammunition to people who don't want women to be in the military because of idiots who won't just leave women to their own devices and treat them equally like they claim to want to.

http://www.people.com/article/female-ranger-school-graduation-planned-advance

http://nypost.com/2015/05/03/woman-to-become-ny-firefighter-despite-failing-crucial-fitness-test/

This is not only ridiculous, it is also dangerous and will threaten lives and it's all because of people like you who try to defend feminism when there are feminists out their who actively pressure governments into doing things like this.

There are also lots of cases here in the UK where we have gender quotas for governments and in Canada as well.

. Women in leadership roles in religious worship. Controversial for some, natural for others.

. Affirmative action. Is help in making up for past discrimination appropriate? Do qualified women now face a level playing field?

Women actually get too much of an advantage to the point that men are being screwed over and here's the proof.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-36266753

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-35111772

https://www.theguardian.com/education/datablog/2013/jan/29/how-many-men-and-women-are-studying-at-my-university

It's actually gotten so bad now that the afirmitive action is now being reversed in favour of men because people like you have desperately tried to convince the world there's an evil conspiracy against women.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/2016/05/11/universities-should-set-targets-for-recruiting-men-to-address-em/

http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/education/14680454.Female_students_facing_squeeze_as_Scottish_universities_told_to_recruit_more_men/

. The mommy track. Should businesses accommodate women’s family responsibilities, or should women compete evenly for advancement with men, most of whom still assume fewer family obligations?

That is entirely down to the individuals in question and can't be done by a sweeping state mandate that nutty feminists love so much. It entirely depends on the family circumstances and exactly what is going on and no companies should not be forced to accomodate women especially considering men get no special treatment in that area either you take the job, you fucking work like you're supposed to.

. Pornography. Is it degrading, even dangerous, to women, or is it simply a free speech issue?

This falls under free expression and is another case of feminist bullshit, have you even glanced at gay porn? Men get 'degraded' just as much as women, stop thinking you're fucking special and don't think I won't link it on this very subreddit if you push me. I don't even know why a feminist would be against pornography at all, it's nonsense, all porn is is two people fucking or more depending on the type of porn, get over it.

. Sexual harassment. Just where does flirting leave off and harassment begin?

This is an important question to ask and yes, I'm entirely blaming feminism for this one. You people have broadened the actual definition of sexual harassment so much that technically girls who randomly hugged me at school could be considered sexual harassers there's 'unwanted contact' and then there's 'sexual harassment' you lot have completely conflated the two which is why those retarded 1 in 4 statistics about 'rape culture on campuses' are grossly inflated.

. Surrogate motherhood. Is it simply the free right of a woman to hire out her womb for this service?

Yes it is, I can't believe a supposed feminist even posted this in a serious way. It falls under free expression and free choice, if nobody is getting hurt, then why is it your fucking business if a woman wants to have a baby for the sake of others you nosy idiot?

. Social Security benefits allocated equally for homemakers and their working spouses, to keep surviving wives from poverty as widows.

Again, this would have to be done on an individual basis, if you are for equality, that's what you do, you consider people as individuals and not as vaginas. What you're advocating for here is actually automatically siding with someone based on their gender which is disgraceful.

Lets remain respectful please.

I'd treat you with more respect if you weren't so full of shit and didn't immediately try to make the bullshit claim that I somehow benefit from society for being a man when I personally have experienced no such thing and why many men out there in the real world don't either. So don't be so surprised if so many men get pissed at you for making these ridiculous claims. So how about instead of going "Boo hoo please respect me" try respecting men for once instead of acting like they're all conspiring to hurt you and they might actually respect you back.

Also, I've noticed that source you linked as lots of paragraphs but no links or sources to back up their claims as any good researcher or debater does.

[–]reddreadbeenborn 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm largely pro-choice and I'm fine with the idea of abortion, if you had actually studied this issue you'd realise that aside from the usual pro-lifer arguments one of the main things people get pissy about it the idea of their taxpayer money going towards such a thing especially if it's non-emergency.

1) I agree that having tax payers pay is a complicated issue, but as many couples cannot afford abortion but require, who do you think should pay, setting aside the controversial "then both of you should have kept it in your pants argument.

his is a genuine issue, however thanks to afirmitive action and other programs where standards have been deliberately lowered for women it has given far too much ammunition to people who don't want women to be in the military because of idiots who won't just leave women to their own devices and treat them equally like they claim to want to. http://www.people.com/article/female-ranger-school-graduation-planned-advance http://nypost.com/2015/05/03/woman-to-become-ny-firefighter-despite-failing-crucial-fitness-test/ This is not only ridiculous, it is also dangerous and will threaten lives and it's all because of people like you who try to defend feminism when there are feminists out their who actively pressure governments into doing things like this. There are also lots of cases here in the UK where we have gender quotas for governments and in Canada as well. 2. There does need to be more research and conversation around this issue. If the they failed the test I do not agree that they should be in the service.

It's actually gotten so bad now that the afirmitive action is now being reversed in favour of men because people like you have desperately tried to convince the world there's an evil conspiracy against women.

I agree the pendulum is now swinging to far in the opposite direction. However this happens when most situations become reversed so we need better ways to balance it out.
The work family situation I do believe is up to both I also believe both parents should have the maternity/paternity rights to bond in the early weeks-months. How this should affect job security is a complicated issue and involves both men an women and a need for more conversation.

This falls under free expression and is another case of feminist bullshit, have you even glanced at gay porn? Men get 'degraded' just as much as women, stop thinking you're fucking special and don't think I won't link it on this very subreddit if you push me. I don't even know why a feminist would be against pornography at all, it's nonsense, all porn is is two people fucking or more depending on the type of porn, get over it.

They were posing a question about porn not making factual statements. Porn has in some cases been shown to have negative affects on how men perceive sex happens and this can affect women. I think however that there does need to be more research into this. Obviously most of us watch porn so maybe we need to just be careful where we end up in the sites.

This is an important question to ask and yes, I'm entirely blaming feminism for this one. You people have broadened the actual definition of sexual harassment so much that technically girls who randomly hugged me at school could be considered sexual harassers there's 'unwanted contact' and then there's 'sexual harassment' you lot have completely conflated the two which is why those retarded 1 in 4 statistics about 'rape culture on campuses' are grossly inflated.

The unfortunate nature of harassment thus far before has meant that it is not taken seriously. It still is not in many places. In an attempt to fix this the terms have been broadened but not maliciously but rather in an attempt to protect and as an assault survivor I personally am ok with the overprotection until harassment and assault to both sexes is take equally seriously and treated equally fair.

The surrogate point I will not speak to as I have little to know knowledge on this an am willing to admit this.

Now as I have work, I am going to make this one final point.

It is immature and shows true character flaw that your defense to being disrespectful is that my article was not up to your standards. Your inability to have this conversation without attacking my intelligence, and comparing me to a man with Tourretes simply because I have calmly present my point of view and my evidence, whether it be on par as yours is perhaps if you use this attitude in every attempt to share your view, why you are going to be met with resistance. Nobody wants to argue with a person who is calling you names and comparing you to perceived religious fundamentalists.

wikepedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights

http://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and-Publications/WIC/Historical-Essays/No-Lady/Womens-Rights/ http://www.historynet.com/womens-rights https://www.britannica.com/topic/woman-suffrage

[–]reddreadbeenborn 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Also I dodged your point about Islam and the middle east because while inherently a human rights issue at the current moment we were discussing feminism and mens rights in an inherently american situation. if that was a wrong assumption alright lets talk about Islam.

You say, "The facts just aren't on your side in the western world, in the middle east? Absolutely, there is a literal patriarchy for you to confront but you lot are absolute cowards and refuse to do so because it might mean you'll actually have to make a difference and fight for your beliefs. Meanwhile it's easier to go around harassing a bunch of 'evil' white men who would otherwise protect and care for you as best they can and treat you like human beings."

First off yes in the middle east the patriarchy is very very clear.However just because they are lesser hear does not mean we should just ignore the areas where there still exists equality. One does not have to choose between equality here or equality there. And many feminists are working hard to promote equality in the middle east. Just naming us all cowards when there are many who are doing work is unfair and frankly immature.And true feminists which are not the neo natzi sjw feminists who do take it to far and we all acknowledge they do, are not harassing. Most are attempting through research grants and events to spread information and knowledge and gather support.

"Reading your post is very much like a Muslim trying to convince me they're moderate you pretend to be calm and understanding but when it comes to your ideology you people really do have tourettes syndrome and just can't help blurting out "HURR MEN!" at the first opportunity."

I am not responding to this because it literally is just you being immature. I provided an article I conceded to you that their can be unfairness for men, I suggested that there are areas where men still have an upper hand. All of this in a reasonable and mannered tone. You are equating that to, tourrettes which is a disorder and not to be taken lightly. How any of what I have done is equivalent to as you put it, "HURR ME HERR ME HERR ME" Is frankly just insulting to my common decency.

I enjoy having mature conversation however you are content with making snide comments and being dismissive. No more good or progress can come until both of us agree to a level ov common decency that you are refusing to provide.

Good Day

[–]Lethn 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe if you didn't act as if there was some mass conspiracy against women in the west you'd get more respectful responses, just a thought.

The site you linked me by the way was ridiculous and the fact that you seem to think mansplaining is trivial but you post a site that says pornography is 'dangerous and degrading' says an awful lot about your beliefs and actually raises my very important point.

Your beliefs are exactly the same as theirs and the fact that you ran away so quickly when I actually gave a very detailed response on all these issues individually saves an awful lot about you as a person. I run into this exact bullshit when debating supposed 'moderate' Muslims, it's the classic bullshit, the claim to hate ISIS, but they think that homosexuality is evil or you shouldn't be allowed to insult their prophet and this is the exact scenario.

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Title	Why can women tell men what to do with their body but not vice versa?
Author	mpsunshine37
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Date	August 18, 2016 4:34 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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