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21-year-old woman gets life in prison for killing her newborn girl without remorse

TrulyStupidNewb

June 27, 2016
18 upvotes
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http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/ex-student-gets-life-term-for-killing-baby-at-sorority-house/ar-AAhG9n4?li=AAggNb9
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Title 21-year-old woman gets life in prison for killing her newborn girl without remorse
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TrulyStupidNewb

Upvotes 18
Comments 10
Date June 27, 2016 8:10 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4q5eoy/21yearold_woman_gets_life_in_prison_for_killing/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/21-year-old-woman-gets-life-in-prison-for-killing.946550
https://theredarchive.com/post/946550
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Comments

[–]HotDealsInTexas 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Would've been something like a 5 year sentence if it was a baby boy.

[–]Mildly_Sociopathic 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Or 8 months house arrest if it was rape instead.

[–]andejoh 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Time to ban sororities.

[–]MenandBoysareGood 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

I think that in some instances we really need to look at cases where the crime could stem from mental illness. In this case she committed neonaticide (killing the child within first 24 hours of birth). There is usually a very specific pattern and psyche profile. I don't know the specifics in this case and it said she wasn't remorseful but it may have been true justice if she got clinical help instead of prison. I wouldn't see it as a pussy pass.

Having said that, more than half of our male inmates have mental illnesses and I would argue many don't belong in a prison. But of course politicians get hired on being tougher on crime. And of course the societal depiction of men is that men=evil.

[–]TrulyStupidNewb[S] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree. Neonaticide has a relationship with mental illness, drugs, financial instability, and relationship instability. Based on the story itself, the judge deemed that the defendant wasn't mentally ill, although that was her claim. We might never find out for real if she was mentally ill.

According to the article, she was in denial about the pregnancy. The denial of pregnancy could also be an indicator of mental illness or trauma, and has an increased risk of neonaticide.

There should be enough safe havens in the United States for anonymous baby drop-off. So far, only women have the right to drop their babies off, as far as I know.

Also, with the declining birth rates, I feel that perhaps society might start to react more severely to infanticide. I believe that many western countries are in a birth crisis, and I wouldn't be surprised if more instance of these "hyper-reacting" scenarios will pop up.

Fathers often don't even have enough rights to keep their children, and are more severely punished, but this is clearly one case where the court did not hold back on the sentence. Moreover, I don't think that jail for life for her is going to do the country any good. If anything it's a financial waste. Personally, I think parole after 20 years would be more suitable. The defendant must have done something in court in order to extend the sentence to life.

The state of Ohio is quite religious, with a religion rate of 43.96%. I do not know if this had any influence on the ruling.

http://www.bestplaces.net/religion/state/ohio

I am torn between whether she truly deserved life in prison. I was not at the trial, so I can't go by anything than the articles.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But the burden of proof shifts as it should when a person offers an insanity or self defense defense.

[–]Captaincastle 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Seems reasonable?

[–]MegaSpaghetti 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thinking of the innocence of my baby brother and now I'm fucking crying.

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Way too much time, unfair in the wrong direction this time.

[–]andejoh 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Only true if you think life imprisonment for murder is too harsh under pretty much any circumstance. I see no mitigating factors.

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