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Women only ride sharing service for "safety".

Juan_Golt

April 8, 2016
22 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://techcrunch.com/2016/04/08/chariot-for-women-is-a-new-ride-sharing-service-for-women-only/
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Title Women only ride sharing service for "safety".
Author

Juan_Golt

Upvotes 22
Comments 11
Date April 8, 2016 10:56 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4dyvh0/women_only_ride_sharing_service_for_safety/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/women-only-ride-sharing-service-for-safety.952254
https://theredarchive.com/post/952254
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[–]Consilio_et_Animis 10 points11 points12 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I wonder just how many male drivers have been sexually assaulted, or just physically assaulted by female passengers? How many have been falsely accused of rape?

If you read the Buzzfeed article about the hacked release of the UBER database recording sexual assaults; you will see that UBER have codes for where a female passenger has sexually assaulted an UBER driver:

https://archive.is/wN8mn

And oh dear! What have we here??

Google false rape taxi driver

Of course the simple litmus test of all this is to just swap gender for race. Most UBER drivers in the UK are asian/Muslim/dark skinned etc. So why not have an app that only allows white European drivers with white European passengers??

...try that for a laugh.

[–]intensely_human[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Holy shit I don't know how this didn't click for me before. A false rape accusation is a sexual assault.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men don't get raped... you are sooo silly.

[–]fullhalter 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

This will never get off the ground. They're quickly going to find out how many anti-discrimination laws this violates.

[–]intensely_human[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Just like Lulu?

[–]sexyjeremypharoahwiz 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I imagine if men fully embrace this idea and start their own men only service the feminists will freak out.

[–]chocoboat 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

There are likely legal difficulties ahead for a service that states outright that it will not serve men. That doesn’t worry Pelletz. “We look forward to legal challenges."

LOL, his tune is going to change in a hurry. If he manages to win (0% chance of this), I look forward to the public reaction when the whites-only ride sharing service is launched.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

you know what i don't give a fuck anymore. Because of the differing physiologies, one gender is always going to be scared of another gender. they will always walk home scared shtiless of getting raped no matter how many times you tell them that less than 10% of rapes happen randomly on the street and that they should be more scared about getting in a car.

That doesn't matter. men are big, strong and more powerful than women and we are apparently all predisposed to rape. They will always have the 'safety' card to play.

There's no point fighting this. Just let them get on with it. It's not going to negatively affect men and women can go home safe in the knowledge they won't get raped.

i don't give a fuck anymore. i've stopped caring. i've just accepted it, men will always be seen as bad and women as good. fuck it.

[–]intensely_human[🍰] 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not going to negatively affect men

Having a single class of people is important to a society because having multiple different classes allow norms to develop which are contributed to by one group and only inflict problem on another group.

In short, if you separate two groups of people to a sufficient degree, then you can do things to the space of one group, and have zero consequences for the other group.

A simple example of this is the law. As long as there is only one legal class of people, then a democracy can function as a decent feedback loop because any law that gets passed applies equally to everyone. In short, nobody will support a law (by supporting the politicians who make the law) that is unfair, because it will be unfair to them as well.

Equality creates a mirror where every action a person take toward society as a whole, they take toward themselves.

But if you have unequal application of laws, if you create two separate legal classes of individual, then individuals in one class can support laws which only adversely affect the other classes. It opens the door for horrible behavior.

Another really simple analogy is if you have a spaceship and one person has their own little sealed room in the middle of it, they're not gonna think about the hull as much because if there's a hull breach it's only those filthy exterior folks who have to lose their air pressure.

Of course I recognize it's good to have this kind of redundancy in a spaceship, because there might be a hull breach. But in a more squishy situation, where the "hull" is a collective set of behaviors and institutions which keep everyone inside comfortable and safe, i.e. when the hull's integrity is a direct product of the sum total of the actions of everybody, then it's best to have everyone "in the same boat" so to speak.

Separating the space in which people life creates classes, and classes allow for mistreatment as long as it can be engineered to follow class lines.

The slow and steady creation of a huge difference in opportunity - women have plentiful opportunity to co-mingle with exclusively their own gender, and men do not - is creating two different sets of societal karma.

A classic example of the result of such inequality that's very familiar to MRAs is conscription. Conscription persists in our society because 100% of the people have the opportunity to vote about it, and only 50% of the people are affected by it. Conscription has benefits to the other 50% who are not directly affected by it. Quite frankly, conscription makes things more stable by ensuring that a country can survive even if it can't inspire its citizens to stand up and fight - it will simply force them.

The big question is whether that stability is worth the horrific rights violation that conscription represents. If that question were answered only by men, perhaps the cost-benefit analysis of having a mechanism to conscript soldiers would weigh out differently, and we'd decide to dismantle the system.

Then of course there's slavery. Would anyone have said it was okay to have slavery in a society if all races could become slaves? If every person could potentially become a slave, would a society still continue allowing slavery, or wouldn't there be enormous political pressure - even if only out of individual self interest, to make it illegal?

I'm not saying I can see some particular way that women being able to share rides with other women will immediately harm men, but I do know that it contributes to further segregation, and a segregated society is fertile ground for unhappiness due to acceptance of consequences that won't affect one's own class.

[–]mwobuddy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wouldn't it be ironic if this service was created by a rape ring of guys who realized that the best way to force women to fuck them would be to behave like a taxi service?

[–]intensely_human[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is a segregated business.

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