In Sweden, promoting gender diversity is not important if that would mean quotas for men

jannie-ventamos · 2016-03-20T11:48:15+00:00

This year, all new students in Sweden’s two opera conservatories will be female. They actually need male singers for their productions. But quotas or any action to attract male singers is out of the question.

dungone · 2016-03-20T13:59:13+00:00

That's hilarious. So the problem with rejecting 100% of the male applicants is that there are plenty of unfilled "sidekick" roles for men, but women have to compete with each other for the lead? Those poor dears!

I would love to see how it would play out if a role that can only be filled by a woman goes unfulfilled because the male faculty keeps rejecting 100% of the female applicants.

2016-03-20T13:43:59+00:00

At the end of the day Sweden hates males. This would never be tolerated if the genders were reversed.

MenandBoysareGood · 2016-03-20T18:07:28+00:00

If the sexes were reversed half the article would be devoted to what could be done to increase the numbers...not only for the opera but for education in general.

2016-03-20T18:28:51+00:00

consider this the end of opera in sweden. what music is worth hearing without any bass? just sounds like a bunch of screaming. bass gives the sopranos the foundation they need to sound good. Beethoven's 9th would sound terrible without the bass.

I wish them good luck. they will need it.

ThePigmanAgain · 2016-03-20T22:18:06+00:00

"In Sweden..."

Not to mention everywhere else.

"Where have all the good tenors gone, and where are all the basses?"

Am i the only one who heard that in Bonnie Tyler's voice? Probably.

Vance87 · 2016-03-20T23:41:22+00:00

I hope the Swedes enjoy Sharia Law. I hear it's nice and equal for all.

toooooommmmmy · 2016-03-20T14:06:41+00:00

Good. There should never be quotas based on gender alone. Now since a choir works a lot better with a range of voices, it could make sense to set brackets for people i.e. We need X sopranos, and that would accomplish the same end. but the way we fix this is most definitely not with more quotas. Sweden is plenty fucked up already.

bigbronze · 2016-03-20T17:43:45+00:00

I'm confused, I got the whole lacking of males in specific schools, but is it truly based solely on not wanting males, or is the standard too high for the men to qualify? They said the school test the applicants in and take the highest scorers; is it the schools fault that the men don't score high enough? Given what was said; there was a lack of males in opera from an early onset, so with no competition they wouldn't have a big drive to get better in the long run since they are valued early on.

If they had some kind of big competition that involved the schools mentioned and the results of them, I think we could get a better insight on this issue. I don't know anything about opera so I need more.

omegaphallic · 2016-03-20T17:42:13+00:00

Maybe there they're having a hard time recruiting men BECAUSE IT FUCKING OPERA!

2016-03-21T02:27:11+00:00

Government needs war fighters, productive laborers, and tax payers. Those are men, and the women provide them. 1000 men and 1 woman can produce 1 of them every 9 months, but 1000 women and a few tired men can potentially produce 1000 of them every 9 months.

It's. That. Simple.

Title	In Sweden, promoting gender diversity is not important if that would mean quotas for men
Author	jannie-ventamos
Upvotes	95
Comments	21
Date	March 20, 2016 11:46 AM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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