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Girl pretends to be 18, isn't. Men charged and convicted, stays on ok Cupid saying she's 18.

Subliminal87

July 27, 2015

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Title	Girl pretends to be 18, isn't. Men charged and convicted, stays on ok Cupid saying she's 18.
Author	Subliminal87
Upvotes	457
Comments	101
Date	July 27, 2015 10:02 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/PussyPass
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/PussyPass/comments/3etp02/girl_pretends_to_be_18_isnt_men_charged_and/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/PussyPass/girl-pretends-to-be-18-isnt-men-charged-and.960096 https://theredarchive.com/post/960096

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It depends. Some girls in our family who are young look 18 or older.

I think blame lies with everyone. The girl is still on okcupid. A lot of comments on Facebook say don't blame the girl.

A good friend of mine had an issue earlier this year with a 16 year old. Claiming to be 18. Ended up giving a statement to the detectives because I know she sent texts saying she was 18 because he was nervous he was 20.

They ended up getting official copies of the texts. Confirmed that she continued to lie. The mother wanted to press charges and so on. Finally two months ago they decided not to go ahead with charges as it came to light she was doing it to other girls and the girl admitted to the detective it was consensual, but the Kim insisted otherwise.

However it's not the same girl in the article. But shit like that pisses me off.

Edit: words.

[–]ppassthrowaway 164 points165 points166 points 10 years ago (52 children) | Copy Link

Same thing happened to me except my outcome isn't so fortunate. Met a girl on an app called Whisper (age gate says 17+) who claimed to be a freshman at a local college. I saw her during the summer dating for about 3 months, and eventually find out she's actually 15 by having her dad come home one day when I'm over. Police get called, and she lies to them saying there wasn't a relationship. No charges filed.

I get a call the next day from her cousin telling me that she tried to overdose on Zoloft and was headed to the hospital. One of her friends that I never met reached out to me to contact her at the hospital. She told me she attempted to kill herself because she thought I was arrested, and it was all her fault. I assure her I'm fine, and that I'm not in jail. She gets sent off to some institution for psychological evaluation. She called me a few times from there, and I reluctantly took the calls because I was I feared triggering someone so emotionally fragile. I was supportive about her recovery, but I let her know in no uncertain terms that our relationship is over. That I had no interest in being with someone so young who lied to me about who they really were.

Two months later I get a phone call from her. My stepfather had just passed away so we talked about that. Then she changes the conversation to wanting to talk about sex and seeing me again. I tell her again we can't and I'm not interested in it. I never hear from her again after that.

Two more months pass, and I get my house raided by the FBI. I get arrested and charged with online enticement which carries a 10 year mandatory minimum. Apparently, the last phone call she made was recorded by county investigators, and passed along to the FBI. They edited out portions of the conversation where I said I wasn't interested in seeing her, and re-recorded it so it wouldn't show up on audio forensic testing. (Stop and start signatures missing and one half of the left and right mp3 was missing. Showing that it was passed through an aux cord)

I can't afford $100K for a federal attorney so I get appointed a public defender who pushes me hard to take a deal. They told me all sorts of fantasies like you'll just get probation or house arrest. That a jury would never believe it. So like a fool I take a deal for a Mann Act violation. I live in PA and she lives in NJ. Same stuff they charge human traffickers with. I stupidly end up taking the deal because the possibility of going to jail for 10 years seemed insane.

Fast forward to last week. I end up sentenced to 7.5 years. I'm completely beside myself right now. I feel deceived from every angle. The people that were supposed to be protecting my best interests even deceived me. My life is ruined now because of this. So when I see stories like this I feel like these guys got off light because this could've easily turned out much worse. There's no legislation in place for girls that go online deceive men for their own interests. I had zero interest in someone that young, and now I'm going to jail like some sort of child molester. I report the beginning of September.

TLDR: Same thing happened to me as the guys above. Except I got charged federally and am going to jail for 7.5 years.

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the money is that he can't withdraw it from a bank

Why not? He's not barred from his finances. If he withdraws it all at once, you are right, if there is a red flag to be set off, that would do it, but...

driving from Pennsylvania to Mexico without getting caught is highly unlikely

Don't speed or break laws like your life depends on it. Pay for gas and food with the cash. Drive there in as straight of a shot as you can. Dump the car when you are within walking distance of Mexico (or at a boat harbor or whatever).

Did you not read his situation? 7.5 years in your 20s for that? And a ruined life here if anyone ever googles your name? Plus getting the shit kicked out of you in prison for being a child molestor? America is nice, but not that nice. Life will suck at the new location for a bit, but certainly not for 7.5 years.

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Unfortunately, it's not a fake story at all. The recording itself shouldn't have been admissable in the first place. It was state investigators in NJ (one party consent wiretap state) recording a conversation with someone in PA (two party consent state). They broke PA law by recording it in the first place.

Second, by removing the section where I told her I wasn't interested in seeing her because she was too young they removed any evidence of my mens rea or state of mind. All they needed was some sort of evidence that something sexual took place to get charges filed. Tampering with the recording is extremely clear. There are periods of silence with click sounds that are audible. Think of the Nixon tapes were sections of it were removed and all that remained are the clicking noises otherwise known as transients.

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I saw her during the summer dating for about 3 months, and eventually find out she's actually 15 by having her dad come home one day when I'm over.

I'm willing to accept for sake of argument that you somehow didn't know she was underage for several months. Upon finding out, most would have severed all ties indefinitely.

She told me she attempted to kill herself because she thought I was arrested

You could have assured whoever called that you were fine and you she gets better, but for legal reasons you should cease all contact indefinitely.

I reluctantly took the calls

She was safe in a psychiatric facility. She probably shared everything that went on between you two, in addition to other things you've probably left out. This was all forwarded to the police.

Then she changes the conversation to wanting to talk about sex

The police had investigated you and needed evidence that you committed the crimes they believed you did, then used her for more evidence by baiting you into a verbal admission of what transpired.

so I get appointed a public defender who pushes me hard to take a deal.

The FBI raided your house. In addition to the recorded conversation, they likely found lots of other things on your electronics. Depending on the amount of evidence, a plea deal is really the only option. Even then, the conversation was likely enough evidence.

They edited out portions of the conversation

It sounds like they simply edited out the benign parts for brevity, but could have supplied uncut transcript/audio at your attorney's request. Your jury wouldn't have believed your theory.

Even if you never did or discussed anything illegal with her, it's still highly suspect that you'd want to remain strictly platonic friends with a minor whom you have no familial relationship. I don't know precisely what you did wrong, but there's definitely much more to your story.

You're going to have to make this sound way more believable for when others force you to share why you went to prison. People are more intelligent than you're giving them credit for.

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