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NFL's oldest cheerleader, Molly Shattuck, pleads guilty to rape charge

fayehanna

June 16, 2015
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http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2015-06-16/molly-shattuck-ravens-oldest-cheerleader-guilty-plea-rape-minor-boy-15-delaware
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Title NFL's oldest cheerleader, Molly Shattuck, pleads guilty to rape charge
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fayehanna

Upvotes 341
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Date June 16, 2015 8:45 PM UTC
(11 years ago)
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NFL's oldest cheerleader, Molly Shattuck, pleads guilty to rape charge

94 upvotes
June 17, 2015
/r/MensRights

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[–]woooonderwoman 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

If this was a 38 yr old man and 15 yr old girl I don't think the comments of 'nice' would be the same. This is statutory rape .....kids cannot consent to any form of sex with an adult, even if they do want a bj.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

apparently he could have in Denmark, England, Germany and Sweden

[–]xynomaster 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

England? Since when? I'm pretty sure the age of consent there is 16.

I mean this is Wales but a woman just got sent to prison for sex with a 15 year old boy there so that would lead me to believe it's not 15: http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-south-east-wales-33115861

[–]trismagestus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Drugs are all legal in Portugal. That's not an argument that someone shouldn't be punished for disobeying the law here.

Anyway, there are some countries where the legal age is 13. How old is your daughter out of curiosity?

[–]baixinho_fv -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

drugs are not legal in Portugal. they never were. Portugal decriminalized drugs.

[–]trismagestus 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Okay, fair enough. Either way, it doesn't change the point I was making.

[–]BlueVeins 9 points10 points11 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Her (now) ex-husband's name is 'Mayo'? I didn't know that was a thing.

[–]fayehanna[S] 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Y'know, my brain kind of glazed over at that name, I'm really glad you pointed that out haha!

[–]fmontez1 21 points22 points23 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Shattuck it without permission. I'll see myself out.

[–]fuckinwhitepeople 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

niiiccceee

[–]PlasmaWaffle 43 points44 points45 points 11 years ago (43 children) | Copy Link

Wow poor kid, that must've been such a horrific experience

[+]Dontblameme1 -68 points-67 points-66 points 11 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link

No shit. Oh no! A 15 year old got a blow job! Better destroy her life over it. Fucking seriously?

[–]_OneManArmy_ 69 points70 points71 points 11 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

If I eat out a 15 year old girl I'd be in jail why shouldn't she?

Get off your white knight pedestal and learn what equivalent punishment means.

[–]Dontblameme1 6 points7 points8 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I think the age of consent laws are kind of dumb in the U.S. It ranges from 16-18 by state. It should probably be 16 everywhere. That is how it is Canada and lots of European countries. I know I was getting blowjobs when I was 13-14. I found a couple of my mom's friends attractive. Nothing ever happened, but I would not have been messed up if it did.

What's the most popular genre of porn on every single website. Teen. By far. Someone is "sick" if they want to fuck a 17 year old, but suddenly she is "prime meat" when she turns 18? Give me a fucking break. Also, there are PLENTY of popular pornstars that could probably pass for 15-16 years of age. A few of them could probably pass for younger. Everyone is afraid to point this shit out though because everyone is so quick to label someone a pedophile.

[–]_OneManArmy_ 23 points24 points25 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

They are the laws and treating women differently is the purpose of this subreddit.

I don't agree with the laws but while they exist I expect them to be enforced.

[+]Dontblameme1 -19 points-18 points-17 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Right. Well I disagree with them when it comes to men and women. I would have a similar feeling if the roles were reversed. Although I have been conditioned by society to expect women are less likely to seek sex so part of me thinks a 15 y.o. girl is more likely to be "messed up" by it. But ya know what? Most women I know (if the subject ever comes up) started at that age or younger. Of course I have known some that started later too. This is all just anecdotal.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Although I have been conditioned by society to expect women are less likely to seek sex so part of me thinks a 15 y.o. girl is more likely to be "messed up" by it.

How do gender roles contribute to whether a child would get "messed up" by it or not? The psychological effects of sex on children are independent of their gender and only a function of their age and some less significant circumstantial factors. If you think circumstances (not including their gender roles but maybe their gender) such as their maturity are something that have to be considered then just say that but don't claim all this stuff about feeling the same if the genders were reversed. It's just independent of gender entirely

[–]Dontblameme1 -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Uuummmm.... I am anti-imprisonment. The U.S. has enough people in prison. 1% of the adult population and counting. I don't think a 15 year old (of either gender; but especially male) will be "messed up" from some consensual sex. Is that clear now?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

To be honest it's all contextual.

I know girls who acted 25 - and looked the part - at 15. If some 50 year old athlete slept with one of them, they wouldn't even know they were doing something illegal.

"He didn't ask, I didn't tell" happens very frequently. I have weird friends. Not 15 anymore, but she still lies about her age.

In THIS case it seems like classic grooming, not a 15 year old using her friend's sister's ID to get into a club.

In THIS case there is criminal motive. That is, the rapist is entirely aware of the age and control difference.

[–]Purpleclone 4 points5 points6 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

In any case, it's still criminal. You're still responsible to know, at the very least, the age of the person you are having sex with.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't think you're required to ask but if there's suspicion and you don't ask then you can be held accountable for intentionally not asking. If they look convincingly 26 and you're 100% convinced whether or not they say it, if you never had suspicions and you're brought to court (and can show that), then you're all good I'm pretty sure

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

it's all contextual

Some of it IS contextual such as physical and mental maturity BUT on average and far largely it's a factor of age which is what the law grabs onto because its well defined and is largely a very good indicator of whether it'll "mess them up" in some way

[–]OldirtySapper -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link

To be fair shes 50 I doubt its going to effect her retirement. I am fine with her getting punished for it but lol the ppl that think this kid was just some victim are funny as fuck. Hell the ppl down voting us don't think 15 year old boys want blowjobs. I am like do you remember being 15????? Shit if someones mom told me they were going to buy me booze AND blow me?!?!? I'd be there every night. I don't care how old her crazy ass is.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

In your mind you imagine some beautiful woman that you actually want to get a blowjob from but by definition of rape you wouldn't have wanted it (not consented) so imagine an ugly crack whore with herpies and STDs in her mouth wanting to give you a blowjob NOW tell me you'd be happy to be sexually assulted

[–]OldirtySapper 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ah so shes a crack whore now too(retired crack whore that owns a house pretty common)....to be clear my argument was never that she shouldn't be in jail. Its just funny that u guys think a 15 yo got scarred by a blowjob. Or that a 15 yo can't defend himself from some 50 yo woman. I'd beat the shit out of some crack whore if she tried to touch me at 15........I never said she was beautiful or anything. I said that 15 yo boys like blowjobs.......

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

15 year olds don't like blowjobs from anyone, hence the crack whore example. Get that through your head, bruh. You're still imagining the rapist as someone who you actually want a blowjob from.

[+]Dontblameme1 -11 points-10 points-9 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Right? It's herd mentality though.

[–]the_human_oreo -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You mean I can get a herd of horny older women to buy me booze and fuck me? Where do I sign up?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

This is actual rape culture, guys and girls.

[–]Dontblameme1 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Fuck you, you fucking moron.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

/u/highonpi was I right?

[–]HighOnPi 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, you were.

[–]Dontblameme1 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

were you?

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I was, yea

[+]OOMAMOW -21 points-20 points-19 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Lol, he lived every 15 year old boys dream. I'm sure he'll be fine.

[–]kngadwhmy4 points 11 years ago [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Living the dreeam right?

[–]OOMAMOW 3 points4 points5 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nvm i just read more into, i didn't know she actually raped him. I thought it was consensual, my bad.

[–]sockmess 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Kids can't consent even if they beg for it.

[–]auralskatole 10 points11 points12 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Whoosh

[–]sockmess 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

But teenage girls never want sex at all. And if they do agree for sex they was raped, they just don't know it.

[+]OldirtySapper -44 points-43 points-42 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

I have a feeling the kid learned an important lesson about not bragging about sexual conquest to his friends. I dont see how statutory rape is a PPD? She would still be getting away with it if the kid didnt brag to the wrong hater. The 15 year old is the one getting denied the pussy now.

[–]fayehanna[S] 35 points36 points37 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

She was also charged with giving alcohol to a minor though, which kind of makes me think that she got him drunk and then did what she did.

If people heard that a football player came across some 15 year old girls online account, got her drunk, and went down on her, then had sex with her, how do you think the news would go? How do you think public perception of the girl vs the football player would be?

[+]OldirtySapper -73 points-72 points-71 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

If you think its the same you are a fool. Totally depends on the 15 year old. You know they used to marry off 12 year old girls for cows right? Personally I am all for the double standard when it comes to this. But it was one of her kids friends not someone she found online. Just cuz a 15 year old is smoother then you and gets some old ass pussy dont be all salty. You really think a 15 year old guy isn't trying to fuck and get drunk? Get with the times kids don't bop anymore Frank, they are banging each other and doing meth by 12. Yeah hang the football player. IDC I don't fuck teenagers personally. Yeah I am sure the kid is scared for life by that blowjob. The humanity..........

[–]3rd_degree_burn 19 points20 points21 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

You started off strong with the insult and the sexism, followed by a quick projecting jab to the pride. After that though, you inexplicably veered towards a nonsensical IASIP reference, and only by then did you notice that you hadn't really made any meaningful contribution. By this point however, it was too late to start making any sense, which led to a callous conclusion, diminishing the very real problem of rape to really tie a bow around the shit sandwich you call an opinion.

Bravo.

[–]fayehanna[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That was beautiful. <3

[–]xynomaster 24 points25 points26 points 11 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

I like how you just assume he was bragging about his "sexual conquest" to his friends, without having any idea of the situation.

He was a friend of her son's and at a sleepover at her house. She got him drunk and performed oral sex on him (thus the rape charge). She tried to get him to have sex with her, but he refused, left the room, called his dad to pick him up, told his dad what happened and didn't talk to her again.

But yeah, keep imagining that he was totally into it and not traumatized at all.

[+]OldirtySapper -35 points-34 points-33 points 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

I was 15 once........so if he wasn't bragging who told the cops???? You really think he ran home to his parents crying cuz he got a blowjob?????? Holy shit man.........yeah his mom pry got him(her kid) and all his friends drunk, pry every fucking weekend.......This happened even when I was a kid(you know the "cool" parents that dont care about the drinking as long as no one drives). I don't think anyone got blown by the person buying the booze tho, If they did they would have came back and bragged about it.........lol a sleepover.....you are talking about a fucking teenager.....seriously the kids are banging each other and doing meth by 12 these days. You know what I don't think I called the parties I went to at 15 sleepovers. Usually we called them keggers. Man there is a rape charge cuz of the age difference. Its statutory. I wish I could do a poll of 15 year old boys to see how many would be traumatized by a blow job. Shit. I am not saying you can't rape a man. I have yet to see one of these kids that gets their teacher prego come out saying they didn't want to fuck. Hell most of the time they actively encourage it. Maybe he got her drunk and tried to rape her. But she cant tell anyone cuz of the age difference. Maybe the kid kept her blackmailed and sucking his cock for months before she turned herself in to get away. Look I can make up stories too man. Fact is until they are in civil court suing her for therapist bills I wont believe the kid got mentally hurt in anyway. Keep making up stories about 15 year old boys not liking blowjobs tho.

[–]xynomaster 14 points15 points16 points 11 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't make up that story I took it from an article. He told his dad after he got uncomfortable when she asked for sex and that was it.

As for none of these kids ever coming out and saying they didn't want to fuck, here's a quote about a victim whose teacher took his virginity when he was 13 in the 1980s and is currently on trial:

Speaking to his mother a decade after the event, when he was in his mid-20s, the victim said: “That cow took my virginity off me when I was 13,” she told the court. His mother said her son had “tears rolling down his face” when he told her what happened.

I guess that doesn't really matter though because you personally feel that you would enjoy it, right?

[+]PlasmaWaffle -47 points-46 points-45 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Guess he's gay

[–]xynomaster 20 points21 points22 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

So if he doesn't want to lose his virginity to an almost-50 year old woman while still a freshman or whatever in high school he must be gay.

Come on you've got to know that's bullshit.

[–]PlasmaWaffle 8 points9 points10 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

ok I guess you have a valid point

[–]FuckKendorsGetMoney 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

/r/pussypassdenied

A man would've been fucking nailed in the context. This is about women not getting preferential treatment based on their gender. Whether or not you agree with the law this is about her not getting a pass.

[–][deleted] 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago* (19 children) | Copy Link

Wow, these comments, its just like I'm on facebook! "Hes lucky", "What is he gay?", "What a poor kid it must have been such a horrific experience!" Honestly would you think the same if this was a 50 year old pedophile going to some girls house he met on the internet and having sex with a 15 year old? What if it was your daughter? What if it was your son?

A 15 year old is still in cognitive development and will have trouble determining right from wrong. They may enjoy throwing rocks at cars but is it morally right or wrong? Its obviously wrong but they do it anyway because they have trouble differentiating between the two. This is why in the laws of the eye a child under the age of 18 ( in the united states) may not give legal consent to sex even if they want to it is considered statuary rape for a reason because you are deemed as taking advantage of a child.

As an adult you are given more responsibilities, not fucking children is one of them. You are an adult you know better than a child you know whats wrong and what is right, children are still growing up and learning. It is your responsibility to allow a child to grow up in an environment that won't corrupt them. As an adult you know that you are not suppose to be having sex with children. You know you are breaking the law, so why shouldn't you be held accountable? Because you are a woman? Because you are only slightly older than that person?

Yes different people develop faster than others but people can also develop slower than others. You are in no place to decide if a child can give consent or not. You do not decide that the law does and it does for a good reason.

Looking at these comments makes me depressed, I just hope all of you people who trivialize rape know you are the reason why rape victims aren't taken more seriously.

Edit: I'd just like to say this is the reason why sex can be considered rape as well while drunk/on drugs since you're judgement is impaired you cannot legally give consent. Just like a person who is not mentally fit. Think of children like drunk adults on shrooms. They may seem like they know what they're doing but they haven't gotten the slightest idea in reality. This isn't some sort of fairy tale. You people honestly make me fucking sick to my stomach. Is this ignorance or just plane and fucking simple arrogance? I'll try to stay off my high horse but some of you really need to get your head out of the clouds and re-evaluate your life. This thread has honestly ruined my day, I'd like to thank you all personally for that, really, give yourself all a round of applause for being a rape apologist.

Edit: Words.

[–]trismagestus 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This seems like the right place to put this.

[–]PaulGRice 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Glad that went where I hoped it would. Damn.

[–]trismagestus 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, sometimes people only look at the title and come back arguing that it's actually not hilarious.

Sometimes titles are facetious, guys.

[–]Sodiepawp 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Welcome to PPD, where we only want the pass denied if it doesn't involve sexually abusing a minor.

[–]auralskatole 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What a fucking crock

[+][deleted] -8 points-7 points-6 points 11 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Many 15 year old boys are fucking. Sorry you weren't. It is natural and normal and all the 'harm' that comes from these situations is a direct result of your puritanical handwringing.

[–]sockmess 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Many 13 year old girls are fucking and they like it. Now would you say a 13 year old girl and a 23 year old man is wrong just because of the age difference?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd say it was standard for most of human history.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Maybe you were a child at 15, people have not been traditionally. I was moved out and working full-time at 16. Quit with the poutrage. The kid didn't get raped and you can't find someone who banged a milf that considers it a scarring experience.

[–]trismagestus 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

you can't find someone who banged a milf that considers it a scarring experience

Really?

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Is that finding one?

[–]trismagestus 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

That's a guy who was raped by an older woman when he was a teen boy and feels a great deal of pain about it. Or did you take it at face value and miss the huge amount of sarcasm? He's crying by the end; do you think he actually finds it funny?

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points 11 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

He was RAPED by one. He didn't have consensual underage sex with her.

[–]trismagestus 2 points3 points4 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, he joked with his friends it was consensual, because of the attitude you espouse - how can a boy not enjoy sex? He's lucky.

How do you feel about girls having "consensual underage sex" with adults, by the way?

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

How do you feel about girls having "consensual underage sex" with adults, by the way?

I feel that it is culturally repugnant, but would be, and has been, less reprehensive in other cultures. Our genetics speak to that fact. Girls reach fertility at a far younger age than our culture recognizes. I have no desire to really delve into the topic, but I don't think that those things are inherently harmful to anyone but spring from religion, jealousy, and such.

[–][deleted] 11 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link

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[+][deleted] -6 points-5 points-4 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You do seem like the type to be thrown into hysterics easily. Man up, nancy.

[–]Warboss17 -5 points-4 points-3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Get'em SunButt, I'm with you.

[–]MustakaThinks breakfast food is gay sex 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

OP - This is not PPD but I am going to leave it up as there seems to be some good discussions going on.

[–]fayehanna[S] 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

OK! Thanks for your response and for letting it stay up. I realized after I posted it that it might not have been the best sub for it.

[–]notjeremy 0 points1 point2 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I know this is a touchy subject but where was this woman when I was a horny 15 yea old boy?

[+]StupidStudentVeteran -9 points-8 points-7 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Niiice.

[+]Seyss -39 points-38 points-37 points 11 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Moronic laws... For me the boy got lucky

[–]xynomaster 27 points28 points29 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Again, you should read what happened before you start saying these things.

She got him drunk at her son's sleepover and performed oral sex on him. Then she tried to have sex with him but he refused, called his dad to pick him up, never talked to her again and reported what happened.

It doesn't really sound like he got "lucky" to me.

[–]Seyss -2 points-1 points0 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Still lucky

[–]sockmess 1 point2 points3 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

So you would be okay if the boy was raped by a 300 pound adult woman? How about a fit adult man and the boy was gay?

[+]nealxg -21 points-20 points-19 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Nice.

[+]ballbag1988 -21 points-20 points-19 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah this kid is going to be so pissed off later in life

[+][deleted] -13 points-12 points-11 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Boooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[+][deleted] -24 points-23 points-22 points 11 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Huh? She turned herself in, so it's not really "denied" if she offered it. And are we pretending that when we were 15, we weren't fantasizing about getting a hummer from an NFL cheerleader? This is fucking stupid.

[–]fayehanna[S] 15 points16 points17 points 11 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't really see where it says she turned herself in. I know she entered a plea deal, which is different.

And it doesn't matter if the guy fantasized about it or not. Imagine if a NFL football player went down on a 15 year old girl that he pursued, it would be a big deal. People would be calling him a sick monster.

I will concede that perhaps this isn't a "pussy pass denied" however, I did think it was at least important to note that she will be labeled as a sex offender because many times when women commit these types of crimes, we don't have to register and typically just get a slap on the wrist. I'll leave it to the mods to decide if it should be removed or not.

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