Just came across a poster campaign all over one of the largest shopping centres in the UK from a charity I've never heard of before. It's about time.

Alkomb · 2015-11-10T15:42:16+00:00

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I_am_Jacks_neckbeard · 2015-11-10T16:39:55+00:00

The second biggest killer is being crushed by a stampede of women after using Lynx body spray.

NoGardE · 2015-11-10T16:03:40+00:00

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victorymonk · 2015-11-10T17:14:39+00:00

I believe Jane Powell (https://www.thecalmzone.net/about-calm/meet-the-team/) is a feminist. See, eg: https://www.thecalmzone.net/2011/04/a-call-to-feminists/

So I'm being skeptical here. It's good they raise awareness, but if they end up blaming men and toxic masculinity it can contribute to the problem. But may be it's good for [some] feminists to start fighting for men's issues. We'll see.

Niketi · 2015-11-10T17:48:24+00:00

I'm not going to criticize an obviously good thing. But we have suicide hotlines and support groups already. Granted, not geared to men, but they exist. To address the appalling suicide rates you need to look at why these men are killing themselves and making some serious societal reforms. A man living with crushing debts to his ex-wife who cannot see his children doesn't need to talk about it. He needs family law reform.

yummyluckycharms · 2015-11-10T19:31:34+00:00

I think most people should be skeptical about this organizations, and I would urge everyone go through their articles that they've posted on their website

The "Fighting The Same Cause From Different Sides: Men’s Issues and Gender Equality" is basically filled with bizarre statements that revolve around the idea that masculinity needs to be tempered and controlled to protect society. My favourite jewel is this quote

An example of this connection can be seen in the pressures of a patriarchal society, where masculinity is dominant and valued so highly.

Right.....if masculinity was so highly valued, why are men feeling emasculated and under attack all the time????

The other article - 10 ways to be a man is just as bizarre when it states that men dont have to compete anymore - when in fact we really do - whether its for jobs, mates, grades, etc.

In essence, this organization seems to be about controlling men and preventing action through dispelling it via talk. But talking achieves little if there is no avenue for action afterwords. What's the point about talking about how a guy cant see his kids if there is no divorce reform. Why talk about workplace discrimination if the law states that they are allowed to be discriminated against.

SlashSero · 2015-11-10T19:17:20+00:00

I have been in the exact same situation myself, and it wasn't until thankfully my family intervened that I started to recover. The real killer is that not only male depression can escalate extremely fast ( so fast that psychiatric care comes way too late ) but is also compounded that vulnerable men are funnelled into social isolation. There are no public resources and your peers drop you as fast as they can if you are a depressed male. No one wants to be around a depressed man.

To prevent male suicides you need to prevent men from getting in a hopeless situation, which is in the current state of society challenging. This is why fighting for men's rights is so important, it is not just rights we fight for but also lives. The weakest and most vulnerable men aren't cared for and are left largely ignored. There are dozens of online communities with hundreds of thousands of men who go through this exact process of social isolation. They all share the same vulnerability: they were either heavily bullied, abused by parents, abused by spouse, handicapped, etc. and they all share the same fate. Can you guess what is the response of society is towards these communities? They are further bullied, ridiculed or called all sorts of monstrous things. Then to make things worse mainstream media outlets advise people to alienate these men even further. It all boils down to one thing: society doesn't want to acknowledge the existence of vulnerable men.

To prevent male depression from escalating more and more there has to be a societal reform where vulnerable men start getting the same care and sympathy as vulnerable women do. But I do not ever see that happening in the current course society is taking, which can easily be seen if you look at western charity. Almost all charities ( especially charities aimed at 3rd world efforts ) are aimed to help specifically children and women, the most vulnerable of men are ignored or sometimes even accused of causing the problems of the aforementioned groups. Another example is the massive male homelessness problem. Only the most charitable of people will help men in trouble, but you can't expect that to be the norm. At least not until the acceptance of men's rights becomes the norm.

ElectricFleshlight · 2015-11-10T20:16:02+00:00

That is fantastic, and beats the shit out of blaming "masculinity" on why men are killing themselves.

intensely_human · 2015-11-11T02:33:13+00:00

I signed up for their one-time autopost thing: www.biggerissues.co.uk. So it's gonna post on my FB feed on Nov 19th.

As an aside, I'm surprised and impressed that the website designers got away with that crazy font and actually made it work.

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