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Gender Wars: Airman accused of minor harassment faces more prison time than deserter Berghdahl...

wrez

November 6, 2015
52 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/5/aaron-allmon-case-makes-minot-air-force-base-groun/
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Title Gender Wars: Airman accused of minor harassment faces more prison time than deserter Berghdahl...
Author

wrez

Upvotes 52
Comments 26
Date November 6, 2015 2:17 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3rpm8w/gender_wars_airman_accused_of_minor_harassment/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/gender-wars-airman-accused-of-minor-harassment.967844
https://theredarchive.com/post/967844
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Comments

[–]wrez[S] 7 points8 points9 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

"When the Air Force convened a pretrial hearing, known as an Article 32, in December, the government had stacked so many charges against the enlisted man that, if convicted, he faced over a century in prison."

[–]GoldenGonzo 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

130 years, to be exact, for:

the women’s accusations, in total, amount to three kisses and six touches

[–]randyjm 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link

Now, if he had been a transgender......

[–]EvilPundit[M] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

You have been shadowbanned by reddit admins (not mensrights mods). See r/shadowban for details.

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Wait, what happened?
If he was a transgender, nothing would have ever happened.

[–]SigmundFloyd76 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link

Wtf was that? Dude was making a point.

Somebody said "well when a woman does it, it's a laughing matter", so the next takes it one step further, suggesting we consider the outcome if dude was trans, and he gets banned?

Was that satire that wooshed over my head?

[–]EvilPundit 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Really, it's all explained at r/shadowban.

Basically I have no more idea than you do about the exact reason why someone is shadowbanned. That's done by reddit admins, who are the next level up from us mods.

If anyone is shadowbanned, they need to either contact the admins, or create a new reddit account.

[–]SigmundFloyd76 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Interesting. Scary. Although I realize now that I know nothing of the post/comment history of the banned user.

Also, is it safe to assume that your "you have been shadowbanned" message is always in reply to the offending comment, or is that not always the case?

Thanks for the reply, btw.

[–]EvilPundit 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The message is just in reply to someone who has been shadowbanned previously. Moderators can see shadowbanned comments, but we don't know why the person was shadowbanned. That happens at a level over our heads.

[–]SigmundFloyd76 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks.

[–]mtn_dewgamefuel 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No, the mods don't know why he's shadow banned. Since he is, anything he posts will show up in mod queue and must be manually approved, which is what they did here.

[–]GamerGateFan 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

New accounts don't work if you carry over your cookies. If you have multiple accounts in Reddit Enhancement Suite it may autologin to all those accounts and regenerate the cookies shadowbanning your alts.

For those who are interested in lifting it, this has helped quite a few people:

The procedure for lifting the ban from all your accounts is: email [email protected] or modmail /r/reddit.com and ask what triggered the shadowban, admit your intentions or unintention at doing so, state you won't do it again and ask forgiveness.

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link

Right?! I seriously don't get it.
I don't even know what "shadowbanned" even means, though, but.
If he did get banned from /r/MensRights, that's just messed up.
1st time "Tagging" another user on Reddit, (I think), but.
/u/EvilPundit Why?:c

[–]SigmundFloyd76 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'll second the tag; Why /u/EvilPundit ? Help us understand.

Btw, in my experience, /u/EvilPundit is a reasonable person. He'll sort it out. There is a misunderstanding here.

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, thanks!

[–]EvilPundit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Really, it's all explained at r/shadowban.

Basically I have no more idea than you do about the exact reason why someone is shadowbanned. That's done by reddit admins, who are the next level up from us mods.

If anyone is shadowbanned, they need to either contact the admins, or create a new reddit account.

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Oh, sorry, I had no idea what happened.
So, you didn't get him "ShadowBanned", or whatever? Ah. I only use Reddit for just a few things.
& this is one of them. (Or whatever.)

[–]EvilPundit 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We moderators can't shadowban people. Only reddit admins can do that.

If you don't break any reddit rules, you shouldn't be affected.

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Ah, thanks! & sorry, I had no idea what a "ShadowBan" even was. Sorry.:c

[–]unpicked-username 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait, when a woman touches a man its a "laughing matter" and he "likes it", and they wanna give this dude a lifetime sentense for the same crime?

[–]bertreapot 3 points4 points5 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

If there is one thing the military is good at, it is being excessively punitive for even minor infractions. With rape hysteria sweeping the ranks, and the presumption of guilt, the armed forces are having a hey day.

He is not even accused of sexual assault, for Christ's sake. Touching a woman's back at work, or her thigh to look at a tattoo? Give me a break.

[–]SigmundFloyd76 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

over a 14-month span, the women’s accusations, in total, amount to three kisses and six touches, plus a series of reported inappropriate comments of a sexual nature.

=130 years in prison?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This guy faces over a century in prison for something that when a female friend drunkenly did to me, I'm now told not to talk about because she's 'embarassed she did that'.

[–]TheDude41 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Chivalry is shit.

[–]Alkomb[🍰] 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

130 years for "minor harassment"?
Wow.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

TLDR on the deserter Berghdahl?

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