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Not All Homeless People, Just All Homeless Women

zardwiz

October 1, 2015
59 upvotes
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/portland-oregon-mayor-wants-to-declares-homelessness-state-of-emergency_560bfafde4b0af3706dec4a0
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Title Not All Homeless People, Just All Homeless Women
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zardwiz

Upvotes 59
Comments 13
Date October 1, 2015 12:34 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3n3fod/not_all_homeless_people_just_all_homeless_women/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/not-all-homeless-people-just-all-homeless-women.970290
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[–]mattreyu 19 points20 points21 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

From their data:

Women: 31% of the homeless population is adult women, and 29% of these women are in families with children. The number of unsheltered women increased by 72 (15%) compared with the 2013 count. (see pages 24-25)

So let's just ignore the other 69%, shall we?

[–]dangerousopinions 11 points12 points13 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Its worse than that. Far more homeless men are on the street while women, while technically homeless, are usually sheltered.

[–]jb_trp 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Quick, somebody tell those homeless men to activate their male privilege! /s

[–]thrway_1000 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 8 points9 points10 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Nearly half of the women surveyed reported having been victims of domestic violence.

How many was just saying so because the story gives them "victim points" and thus benefits. (Yeah, they are people worth of compassion anyway, so let's assume that I made the point purely as a methodological observation.)

In any case, this is why feminists keep lying about domestic violence decade after decade. The lies give them political capital in all kinds of women related issues. Lies are like gas for their sexist machine.

[–]StarsDie 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And plenty of the homeless men probably also experienced domestic abuse, but simply are unaware that they could call their experience 'abuse' on the basis that 'men can't be abused'. At least not by women. And it's just a common thing all around that men don't describe their actual abuse as being abuse. It's not a male way to reveal their victimhood.

[–]dangerousopinions 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Considering the demographics of homeless people in general and the rates of substance abuse and mental health problems, its likely that most of these women were telling the truth. Its likely that most homeless men have also been victims if various types of abuse and violence.

[–]StarsDie 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

"Women on the street a) face disproportionately more violence and sexual assaults than men"

It's awesome when people say shit like this without citing their source. Her source was probably her 'gut feeling'.

[–]zardwiz 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Election year tripe? Unfunded mandate? Or just completely ignoring half the problem?

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Ah, the Portland, Oregon homeless problem.

The actual issue has more to do with the NIMBY population. Most of the homeless population has some intersection of drug, mental, and physical health issues, and then the occasional hipster douche who wants to live something "real" before going back to the trust fund. Most people in Portland don't have a problem helping these people. God knows the city is enough of a destination that other cities in the US will literally give their homeless populations bus tickets to my city.

The problem is that when it comes time to discuss where to actually put facilities, everyone makes it their problem. So instead we get to deal with the fact that you will see lines of homeless people every time you drive down the main drag- Burnside- downtown, because the only aid these people get are locations that are decades-old at this point, things like Portland Rescue Mission.

And yeah, this is purely Charlie Hale trying to get re-elected. He hasn't had the most popular tenure as mayor and the year he was elected was fraught with controversies for other candidates, so it wasn't even that he was necessarily popular.

[–]zardwiz 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A city in Utah (of all places) figured out some time back that it was cheaper to actually give an apartment to people who are chronically homeless than to pay for services for them piecemeal. I don't hold much hope for this being a long term program, given that he "didn't offer a financial commitment."

WaPo actually did a decent piece on the Utah program as I recall - I haven't seen any outcomes data, but it's a bit soon to really tell. Doubtless, it runs into the same NIMBY problem, but sometimes the state needs to just make things happen, even when they're unpopular.

"Giving" things to people doesn't fly on a large scale in our society, not when a portion of that population is male, anyway. Even when it's less expensive and cuts down on crime and, y'know, prevents people from living on the street, it's unpopular.

Shame this is only an election trick. It wouldn't take all that much money (in the scheme of things) to buy a hell of a lot of houses that the banks aren't maintaining anyway. Cheaper to offer services to people when you know where they are, and most people (even with mental illness or a crippling drinking problem) could mow the lawn or call the city when the roof leaks.

I'd actually love to see a law passed that gives right of first refusal on every foreclosed home in a development to such a program, and also voids the HOA rules on that property as long as the program owns it. But that will never happen. We can't spend money to solve a real problem, we have to spend money to solve a women's problem. Nevermind that it's probably cheaper, easier, and more efficient to get them all a roof and the services they need.

The fact that we even have a homeless problem in this country pisses me off on a number of different levels. It's not like we don't have homes that are vacant, some portion of those people are vets and the VA is a clusterfuck (if it wasn't, their mental health issues could be solved), etc.

We could fix so many things in truly equitable and fair ways, but between "help the women" and "don't give anyone anything they didn't directly earn," it's political suicide to try.

[–]somnambulator 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men are so disposable, I'm surprised they're not putting in trash compactors to deal with all the homeless guys.

[–]BruceCampbell123 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Portlander here. I'm not surprised. Portland has become a feminist mecca that puts women first consistently and unapologetically.

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