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News story actually uses word "rape" to describe boy being forced to have sex with women

xynomaster

September 22, 2015
114 upvotes
/r/MensRights
http://www.kctv5.com/story/30082480/16-year-old-boy-says-he-was-held-down-raped-by-3-others
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Title News story actually uses word "rape" to describe boy being forced to have sex with women
Author

xynomaster

Upvotes 114
Comments 8
Date September 22, 2015 1:15 AM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3lvpf2/news_story_actually_uses_word_rape_to_describe/
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Comments

[–]xynomaster[S] 17 points18 points19 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

According to Carrollton police, the teen said the attack occurred in late August or early September. He said he told his attackers that he wasn't interested in group sex, but that Schlueter held him down while the two women raped him.

Of course there was a man involved who physically held him down while the women raped him, and it had to be a direct and violent rape before they called it that, but at least they didn't say that he was held down while the women "provided sex" to him or had "forcible sex" with him. It's nice that they called it what it was.

Though this is kind of bullshit:

A young woman was also involved. Because the woman is under 21 years old, prosecutors are having to determine how to proceed as far as charges against her.

As far as I know prosecutors have never had trouble charging 20 year old men with rape before. Maybe it's just a temporary thing and they'll end up charging her anyway, and I shouldn't judge this early, but it's still kind of weird that they even have to think about it.

[–]xNOM 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What's up with 21 in Kansas City? I thought that was weird, as well.

[–]EmpathyOverSympathy 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

As far as I know prosecutors have never had trouble charging 20 year old men with rape before. Maybe it's just a temporary thing and they'll end up charging her anyway, and I shouldn't judge this early, but it's still kind of weird that they even have to think about it.

I'm guessing it's because they're trying to discern whether or not she was manipulated, pressured, or forced into participating by the older people involved. Not something they'd be bothering with if she was male, probably.

I'm more interested in how the convictions and sentencing play out. History leads me to believe she'll be convicted of a lesser crime and given a lighter sentence than him, probably due to arguments that he abused/manipulated/forced her to participate too.

Haven't you heard? Women are wonderful! /s

[–]gengrievous07 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

That's my home town and i know both of these mother fuckers. What makes me even more sick is she has 4 kids and he has four kids of not more. I hope they throw the book at both of these sick fucks and charge the other woman as well. Fucking fucks.

Sorry just really gets to me personally not just it being my home town.

[–]Tmomp 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Because the woman is under 21 years old, prosecutors are having to determine how to proceed as far as charges against her.

No, because she's female they have to determine how to proceed. If she were male they'd have charged him already.

[–]mrmcdude 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I did some googling and it looks like the relevant laws in Missouri are these:

566.034 - Statutory rape in the second degree: sexual intercourse between a person 21 or older with a victim less than 17 years old (i.e. 14, 15, or 16 year olds) - See more at: http://statelaws.findlaw.com/missouri-law/missouri-rape-and-sexual-assault-laws.html#sthash.l5eHd1sZ.dpuf

566.064 - Statutory sodomy in the second degree: "deviate sexual intercourse" with a person less than 17 (i.e. 14, 15, or 16 year olds) when the defendant is 21 or older - See more at: http://statelaws.findlaw.com/missouri-law/missouri-rape-and-sexual-assault-laws.html#sthash.l5eHd1sZ.dpuf

So, without comment on whether the law is a good one or not, that is why it matters.

[–]mwobuddy 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

so 21 year old woman is still some child without agency?

And LOL at the bawling mugshot. Hilarious. The pain she's feeling isn't enough for a rapist like her, but its a start.

[–]kurtu5 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Of course the boy was raping her.

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