Can someone tell me if these '5 myths about the gender gap' are accurate points?

iainmf · 2015-05-20T07:04:03+00:00

Here's another thing to consider. Where I'm from the race pay gap is larger than the gender gap. Why don't we ever hear about a race pay gap?

When there a race pay gap, it's ok because of reasons, but a gender gap is somehow wrong.

elwahrio · 2015-05-20T12:22:34+00:00

4 is weird: Women don't make less because they have children, but look at this study where women who had children make 14£ less than women who didn't. Way to disprove yourself.

And point 5 argues that we need to change working hours and conditions in order to stop men from choosing work conditions that pay more, but point 1 claimed the pay gap is for the same work including hours?? If economists say only 25% is due to discrimination, why are they deliberately inflating the wage gap by a factor of four? Very disingenuous.

GenderNeutralLanguag · 2015-05-20T05:48:11+00:00

1) Correct. The gender segregation of the work force isn't getting any better, so it's affects are not getting any better. "The Wage Gap" is not closing.

2) The higher paying fields also includes higher paying specialties with in fields. These higher paying specialties explains why some doctors make more than other doctors. For a much more in depth look, read Dr. Warren Farrels "Why Men Make More".

While far from a magic bullet that explains the entirety of the wage difference, different work does a great deal to explain different pay.

3) This one says women don't negotiate well is a myth because women don't negotiate well. It disproves it's self.

4) This one says it's not true that Mothers earn less because of fewer hours work isn't true because Mothers work fewer hours for reasons.

5) Correct. In many ways readjusting how merit is determined would do a great deal to close the wage gap. The current dependence on using long hours as a proxy for hard work isn't doing any one any favors.

Rabbit_TAO · 2015-05-20T13:48:35+00:00

Female financial specialists make 66 percent of what their male counterparts make, female doctors earn 71 percent, and female lawyers and judges make 82 percent. That’s all controlling for age, race, hours and education.

Just to play Devil's Advocate, anyone want to take a stab at this?

shinarit · 2015-05-20T14:36:30+00:00

Just browsing through it you could even think it's a well written piece. But at the end they expose themselves.

This is golden:

What could make a big difference would be if workplaces reconsidered how they compensate their employees — and were more transparent about it. Rather than disproportionately rewarding workers for putting in long hours and making themselves available around the clock, they should reward high-quality work and allow employees more of the flexibility they need to balance work and family demands.

So even though the paygap is women's fault, the jobs should reward a feminine workstyle with mostly unquantifiable measures of work like "quality", and give the flexibility even though some would rather work harder. Thankfully this is a capitalistic world, not school, much harder to feminize.

jtaylor73003 · 2015-05-20T05:41:09+00:00

People can not agree that it exists and if it does why it exist.

SweetiePieJonas · 2015-05-20T14:57:23+00:00

What's next, "5 myths about Hercules"?

Title	Can someone tell me if these '5 myths about the gender gap' are accurate points?
Author	davidcolvert
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Date	May 20, 2015 5:18 AM UTC (11 years ago)
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