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Brutal spin the bottle game in elementary school

Petrosmine · 2023-11-02T05:26:56+00:00

>be 9 year old me >school field trip at an open park >classmates start playing spin the bottle for hugs on one of those big picnic tables...

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November 2, 2023

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Title	Brutal spin the bottle game in elementary school
Author	Petrosmine
Upvotes	15
Comments	20
Date	November 2, 2023 5:26 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/AllPillDebate
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[–]curious_lychee9 8 points9 points10 points 2 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

[–]MakeSmash0 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

[–]curious_lychee9 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Lmao. I’m trying to remember instances like these and there were a decent amount between ages 7-13. At 13.5-14.5 it got bad.. really bad lmfao. Speech disfluency kicked in, I grew legit boobs, for chubby, face got all asymmetrical and looked uggo. At choate I legit just went to class and came back to my dorm to rot to japanese cartoons. Still, any setbacks like that pale in comparison to cns and brain damage which is all I care about these days and all I talk about with my friends. I’m like a broken record because I can’t even go for a walk without feeling dizzy and stumbling around.

But ueah, between the good ages I recall a couple crushes in my direction, a couple times being asked out, one time at a pizza party at age 12 after some sports event I was hangijg out with friends and a couple girls were following me aroujd and kept grabbing me, don’t even recall why but I got too stressed and hid in the bathroom lmfao. Another time at 13 I was watching a movie with my guy friend and he invited some girl over. She kept moving to sit next to me and he even offered her to come sit near him saying the view of the movie is better and she flat out ignored him. Was brutal. For a reference point, I sort of looked like that kinder chocolate kid growing up. I can link it

https://www.vip.pt/josh-bateson-menino-da-kinder-e-um-verdadeiro-sex-symbol-doze-anos-depois

[–]MakeSmash0 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

Damn man how old are you now?

It sounds like even if you can deal with this immediate problem you'll have quite a bit of work to do, and be limited by money too.

It's a really deep hole to dig yourself out of but, make sure you go easy on yourself too because regardless of anything it will take time.

But assuming you can get this neuro damage under control in a year or two, it might not sound inspiring but never underestimate what 10 years can do. We live a long time these days and the technologies coming in the next 10 years, 20 years... it's still an unprecedented time to be alive and the potential for solutions we wouldn't even consider is stronger than ever.

In my 20's I went through a point of just absolute aloneness that lasted about 10 years and it kept its mental scars for sure but just through slow meticulous trial and error I did manage to improve to a point in life I'm "happy" to a degree.

Bleak for sure to think that's the best result but you seem to understand suffering is fundamental regardless and that having a somewhat comfortable state of mental and eventually physical well-being is a gift in itself.

But yeah. That 10 year grind, suffering, chaos, time is just a dark illusion in that state like an ether, but either way there is suffering.

I'm just saying, don't underestimate what that sort of grind can do for you. Most people would laugh at the notion but I reckon you can see where I'm coming from. Life is all suffering anyway. Lmao

It just helps to have a reminder that like "oh yeah there's a benefit to infinite fucking suffering", lest we forget it's part of the process of life either way. That realization breaks most people and it just takes a certain amount of pride to say fuck that I will endure due to sheer stubbornness lol.

[–]curious_lychee9 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link

Money isn’t a major limiting factor.

I think you are the guy I spoke with the other day where I Mentioned I was going to be a dr, that’s dead now given my prognosis. It’s a shame because I had everything lined up for me with private practices ready for me to take over from family, attended a t20 uni.

Unfortunately it can’t be resolved at this time. Neurons don’t regenerate and brain damage is permanent. At most the brain compensates and makes some new neural pathways/reroutes them during the year or two post remission, but those cells don’t come back. Not to mention, cns axons don’t heal either lol. Autonomic neuropathy is a bitch because your brain can’t properly send signals to organs like it used to. Could cause antrhijf from abnormal heart beat and blood pressure to respiratory failure(there is a different form of it called familial dysautonomia, usually present in the ashkenazi population, which leads to a very early death usually from respiratory failure. That’s a genetic etiology vs the usual cause which is diabetes vs in my case an insult to the cns from a disease)

Sadly, if I had more money and access to my own lab and staff where I could just do as I please, it likely could be resolved using neural stem cells and neural progenitor cells, either from a cloned fetus which would be ideal since zero immunogenicity, or from induced pluripotent stem cells which is where most of the research is focused on rn(brilliant scientist discovered ipscs a while back, he won a Nobel for it.. they basically take autologous cells like fibroblasts and reprogram them to become pluripotent). They’ve already shown efficacy in animal models and I think some human trials. Another aspect to it is forcing the cells to integrate in the exact fashion you want, to mimic the pathways their deceased predecessors maintained. That’s tougher lol. Magdalena gotz, she’s another big name in neuroscience, is studying it rn in animal models over in Munich, figuring out the role astrocytes and glial cells(cns innate immune cells)play in mediating the integration of nascent neurons. Sadly afaik she and other promising people are working with a pittance and are constrained by all sorts of regulatory tape. Imagine if they were given hundreds of millions from private firms, SoftBank etc who could see commercial potential(target ultra rich sufferers of these ailments and scale the cost with their net worth? Modify the cells pre transplant in some way to make them dependent on exogenous drugs that must be administered weekly, monthly, annually whatever, so any patients receiving the treatment would have to become lifelong clients of pharma companies? I’m sure there are ways). And/or if they were allowed to skip in vitro and animal models and move quickly straight to human trials. Why exactly is it wrong to experiment on certain prisoners again? If you could take hundreds of killers, rapists, people who violated others autonomy and agency, experiment on them, save the tax payer lots of money, and in turn use the findings to save or improve qol in thousands of innocent people, wouldn’t it be morally outrageous to refuse such a proposition?

[–]MakeSmash0 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's heavy handed but may prisoners arent risk averse and would probably sign on to some of those things willingly for a reduced sentence tbh.

That was a challenging read but I think I get the jist of it. So basically there's the problem of not only generating cells that are compatible with your biology but also a lack of officiated research as to how to actually get those cells to align with the damage that needs to be repaired, and research is hampered there because of probably dozens of funding reasons.

So many things I was hearing about just disappeared from my feeds during the recent A.I boom and it feels like everyone is chasing that gold rush right now.

Most people aren't as optimistic about A.I as I am but I've been following it for a few years pretty aggressively and I'm pretty convinced we are going to be crossing some fundamental evolutionary lines sooner than later.

Like, I have wondered if technology is an anomaly to human evolution but understanding the universe better from a simple algorithmic perspective it really seems like technology AND "A.I" has been inevitable all along in this causal advance of the universe from simplicity in to the complexity we say today.

So that, and given the absolute swing in attention and funding, GPT5 being trained, the need for A.I companionship and the sea of lonely men who would benefit greatly from even basic stimulating female companionship (myself included), the trillion dollar market will be irresistible.

Not to say it's a cure all solution but like, these technologies will HAVE to be super accessible to the public. Through Metas incoming "Mixed Reality", with VR, and the need to downsize the technology and make it more affordable, just like successive generations of cellphones. I am reaaaallly sure this is going to happen quickly.

GPT5 will inevitably get out of the box. So will GPT6, if a general super intelligence hasn't started to develop yet, Ray Kurzweil predicted a large language model would pass the Turing test by 2029, and everyone mocked him decades ago but now it appears not only was he right it might be sooner.

The concept of a large language model actually PASSING that test, we can't even begin to understand. If that were to happen, the conversation we are having right now would be indistinguishable from that with an A.I.

That sort of thing alone makes me refuse to quit life.

Tbh your medical situation is faaaar beyond my scope of understanding but what I'm trynna get at is if you ever need fuel in moments of doubt , if there's a time to be struggling with disability in history this is it, imo.

Did you see the interview with Lex Fridman and Mark Zuckerberg done with the new VR tech? You don't even have to watch the interview but just flip through the thing. The hyper realisticism is fuckin mind-blowing and imagining even this tech with GPT5, is like.... game over. We are nearing human battery territory. But the technology used responsibly can be incredibly powerful for those who need it imo.

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