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Doing the math on where you stand in your community as a male truly reinforces the black pill for me.

February 14, 2023

First off, happy valentines day everyone.

I am currently going to a school with around 8,000 people with about 60% being female and 40% being male.

This leaves my competition in this one community (which obviously women also have access to other communities so the overall result is worse), being about 3,200 men. Now we will break that into the top 20% as that is typically the percent that will have at least a positive smv, which gives about 640 men that would at least have a slight chance of attracting a decent partner.

I used to go to a much bigger school in a major city and there I would be able to get hundreds of matches on tinder, now here I made a bumble account last night and got 8 likes. Due to my experience in the city I felt that I had the upperhand over the men at this new school, however the 8 likes on bumble was a truly blackpilling experience which is what got me analyzing my situation, giving me the conclusion that it is over for me unless I want a super fat ugly deformed girl, but even then I feel that I would struggle.

To break down the 640 people, I see many men who are over 6ft tall. This is a bracket I do not meet, therefore that is a significant chunk of the population making up that 20%, and perhaps removes me from the 20% altogether. I have had sex with girls in the past and the entire time they gushed over how "pretty" I am but this has not happened for almost 3 years at this point. This was a huge well of confidence for me, but they must have been flukes, meaning that there is probably a significant portion of men at this school better looking than me, pushing me even further out of the 20%.

This is not to mention my current lack of finances, the fact that I am 23 and still in school, the fact that I work part time as a cashier, my complete lack of confidence or social skills. Just the looks and height alone push me out of the 20%, add these other factors and it is truly a blackpilling experience.

I think that anyone who is blackpilled, but feels angry about their lack of female attention and feel that they deserve more should do a genuine analysis of their situation. There really is not a point in being angry when I am just not good enough, and most men are not good enough. Honestly it also makes you feel very depressed, but that is the reality of the world for men.

It is best to just detach yourself from women. I do not look at them, I pretend that they don't exist, I do not speak with them, because all it does is make me realize that I am not good enough for them and any thought otherwise is not based in reality. I feel that suffering is just a reality to accept for a blackpilled man outside of the 20%

There is maybe a small percentage of the fat and deformed that will welcome us with open arms, but honestly even that is unlikely if you fall outside of the top 40%.

Now all that there is left is to run on the endless path of self improvement that men are told to pursue to become corporate commodities who lend their beta bux to a single mother in their 30s.

I truly don't understand how women think they have anything to complain about. The world is made for them to enjoy.

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Title Doing the math on where you stand in your community as a male truly reinforces the black pill for me.
Author gruckendud
Upvotes 12
Comments 31
Date February 14, 2023 2:43 PM UTC (1 month ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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[–]zastale 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I see no lies.

The room for error (not meeting the standard) is getting smaller and smaller. At this point, unless you’re statusmaxxed I don’t see a conceivable way to pull the women you really want.

I have legitimately contemplated dating a fat girl, with the intention of getting her into the gym and eventually getting her in shape. I won’t lie, I’d be embarrassed to be seen with her, but I don’t even know if I’d care at this point.

Another thing, and I’m going to be crass: I don’t have a horse cock, so I don’t even know how I’d get through all that lard.

Lastly, I’d be worried that she’d leave me once she slims down.

[–]SolidPuzzleheaded984 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This was my friend’s situation.

As soon as his gf slimmed down she left him after 2 years together.

She recognized her value and the obvious new attention she was receiving.

[–]zastale 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It reminds me of this TikTok post where a girl brags about her newfound physique and now all the guys that rejected her were now hitting her up, but someone in the comments mentioned that any guy that pursues now, is also only with her because of her current physique, and it’s presumptuous to assume otherwise.

The only way I can see this not happening, is if the guy also levels up significantly alongside her. But, outside of PEDs and/or extreme finance/socialmaxxing, I don’t see how it would even be conceivable to change that much.

Either way, it just goes back to genetics/black pill, as always.

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Thinking about the recent thread 'if you could be a Chad man or a woman, what would you pick' and it was universally 'Chad man'. If you were prone to reading into things that might be a massive admission that men have it better in all areas of life except sex and dating.

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

A very small amount of men have it great while the vast majority toils for whatever dregs of society is left over for them. A non-chad is not really seen as a human-being. Practically every woman has a choice as to how their life will be. Yeah, they can work hard and get a good career, but judging by my personal observations in all of my STEM classes I can tell you that typically isn't the case. If a woman wants she can start an onlyfans, she can get a betabux provider, she can get knocked up and receive government assistance and/or child support.

Using an example of a woman that I hooked up with in the past. She was definetely good looking, but it isn't like she was the most beautiful thing on the planet. Once the pandemic started she made an onlyfans and within a month she was making ungodly sums of money and able to afford a high rise luxury apartment down town while also being able to buy tons of designer clothes and basically whatever she wanted. She wasn't even that special.

Most women have the chance to live a free life while most men are destined to lives of slavery. Honestly I am not well-versed on how government assistance works and how much you get from it, but say men and women do receive the same amount of assistance. The man will be seen as a pathetic loser while the woman will be seen as a strong independent single mother, say she isn't a mother she will still be desired for sex. A pathetic loser man is not.

Even chad, if he really wants to be successful will have to put in a lot of work in their studies or whatever they want to do to be able to obtain enough finances to not be seen as a loser (although the halo effect makes them less likely to be a loser).

Plus, I would not be surprised if the majority of people on this sub are men and are more tempted by the idea of being a chad that fucks tons of beautiful woman vs being a woman that gets fucked. When I think of being a chad I think of fucking many beautiful women and dropping them on a whim. Doing that as a girl doesn't seem as fun since I am not into guys. Also, that is just comparing an average woman to the pinnacle of male existence.

Personally I believe women's main pros are not in the dating world, but in the fact that the world is designed to provide for them, and that women are not looked down on for reaping all of these benefits without contributing anything to the world besides their reproductive organs, which in most cases provide a negative anyways.

Women's advantage in the dating market is so heavy that they can leverage that into a life of leisure without any stress or responsibility. I wish I had that option as I hate work to be honest, but if I don't work there will be nobody there to save me.

Sorry for the long message, and I don't blame you if you don't want to read it, but being a man is objectively worse than being a woman in my opinion, although I guess you could say I am biased as well.

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

So you would have answered 'woman'?

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

No I would have answered chad. I am just saying that chads are the pinnacle of male existence and the fact that they are being compared to the average woman at all is telling. If you were to say would you rather be a man or a woman I would say woman. A chad is a special type of man. I would say at the top end of things, maybe the top 1-2% men definitely have it better, but I am more concerned with the men who aren't chads.

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Ok a Chad man or a supermodel woman?

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I think there are different degrees of chads. If it is just a chad in college who is fucking dozens of women per semester then I would still rather be a supermodel women due to their status and enjoyable life. However if you were to compare two hollywood actors one male and one female then I would rather be the male. Same thing if you were to say would you rather be the best looking man in the world or the best looking woman in the world I would rather be the best looking man.

I know it sounds dumb, but I personally just think it is cooler being a man of high status vs being a woman of high status (with the status being defined as being in the top echelon of looks or finances in this case as I see those as the two most important things in the world).

Overall though, my main opinion is if you boil it down to say the top 5% of men based on some value statistic that is able to encapsulate the main things that make a man valuable vs the same 5% and same statistic for women, I would rather be a man. Like I said I am biased and I think men are overall better than women.

Still, when speaking about societal perception and ease of life for the average, and even above average (talking 90-95%) of the population for both men and women, I think women have it much better.

Those very top people basically vastly overcome everything before them and it is difficult to even really compare the life of a top-top tier chad vs an average man because the chad has things exponentially better. Honestly with women I feel like the difference between a top 5% woman and an average woman is not even close to as much of a disparity as it is for men between those two groups.

I have heard it said that men are much more polar as a group compared to women. The best men have a vastly better circumstance over their average underlings compared to women basically.

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

It's interesting seeing you type out your cognitive dissonance but I don't have anything to add to that.

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Well, your reasoning for men having it better than women is that a few people on this subreddit said they would rather be a chad than a normal woman, so whatever man.

It seems like you just don't understand what I am saying , which is surprising since judging by your profile you are constantly in these sorts of subs making dozens of comments every day of your worthwhile life. You would think after all of that practice and time wasted you would have had better deduction skills

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sure man.

[–]SolidPuzzleheaded984 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

In 2023 if you under 6ft you are auto not in top 20%

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

100%. I am apparently somewhere between 5,10 and 5,11, but I still feel like a little girl half the time standing next to taller people on my campus. It seems like everyone is just so tall. I really can't blame women for liking taller men, as I feel so weak compared to them.

I am currently sitting next to a guy who is like 6,5. Of course the background on his phone screen is him and his girlfriend.

[–]no_bling_just_dingself-aware MSTOW // أشهد أن لا حبة إلا الحبة السوداء 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

even after it got worse your situation was still better than mine

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And I do feel bad about this. I realize that there are definetely many men that have it much worse than me. I will say that the thought of a woman viewing me as a human being, or having sex with a woman that I like, or really any woman in general that I don't pay for seems like something that is truly impossible. The pit of the black pill is very deep and even decent men fall into it's depths as they are not good enough for modern women. I feel that being 6ft alone is basically a prerequisite to have any sort of happiness with the opposite sex. Even if you are decent and are able to find someone, if you are outside of the 20% you will never be loved.

Thinking back on my prior experiences it is genuinely hard to believe that they happened. I will also say that every time I have been with a woman I also took drugs to make me more social, without those drugs I would have nothing.

[–]SedTheeMighty 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep I can’t really dispute this. You elaborated it pretty well.

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

I mean, you need actual numbers not guess work, i.e. making shit up.

Also you literally point out many areas that you could improve in through self work but are just going to blame everyone else and not yourself?

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (10 children) | Copy Link

can't improve looks and height.

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You can approve social skills, confidence, communication skills attitude

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

You can approve social skills, confidence, communication skills attitude

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Looks and height already push me out of the 20%. This is not to mention the fact that as a man it is not easy to improve those things in a meaningful way. I am well-liked by my female coworkers, so it isn't even like my social skills are that bad. In the end none of it matters due to the genetic dice roll I received.

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bullshit cope

[–]Constant_Ad6906 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

But do those things matter to women more than looks? Like how does confidence make women want to date you or fuck you?

[–]ElectricBugs 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

They do in my experience. Looks obviously is part of it, but someone who is confident or has good social skills can appear more.attractice as a result of the fact they are able to chat with you and are not leaking insecurity or desperation

[–]Constant_Ad6906 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Will admit that you won't be with a man you view as physically unattractive even if he had all those other traits.

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have been with someone who was extremely unattractive. We were together for 4 years. I loved her (trans woman) for who she was not what she looked like.

Attraction is not only based on looks and can e overcome

[–]Constant_Ad6906 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you unattractive yourself?

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm fat but I am cute.

[–]-Serenity---Now- 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

What a pity party! You are so wrong. Ive never gone out with a tall guy. Have also gone out with not good looking guys. Im an attractive female. Grow up. If you have a SOH, you are halfway there. If a guy can make a girl laugh he's in with a good chance. So you haven't been laid in 3 years. Boohoo. Get yourself back out there and stop being a whiny little bitch.

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What is SOH?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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