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Polyamory seems to be the only somewhat realistic option for a non-chad to get into some sort of relationship

gruckendud
March 1, 2023
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I have pretty much given up on trying to attract a woman and have a romance and all that stuff. I just don't really believe any of that to be real. I am approaching the end of my undergrad where I will hopefully soon have a career and will be able to make money. By that point I know that if I ever do attract a partner it would be due to my job and hopefully house.

I always think, "why would a woman even get in a relationship anyways since it is so easy for them to have sex". Obviously by the post college ages women will be looking for a relationship to provide them support and a place to live which is where I would come in.

I will be honest, if I could get sex as easily as a woman I do not think I would care at all about a relationship. I figure if I do manage to attract a woman, I will consider it a polyamorous relationship as she can get fucked whenever she wants (not cuck stuff, I guess I would be in a cuck position, but I would definitely not get any pleasure in having my partner get fucked by other men, it is just a means to an end).

Theoretically I would also be able to take advantage of the open relationship, but like I have mentioned, I am not able to attract women, or just don't know how. Since I would be providing for this woman and allowing her to get fucked, I feel that I would also be entitled to fucking her, which if this is not the case then I would not have a relationship with her.

I feel like this is the only realistic way for a relationship to last. I do not see how a guy like me who is under 6 feet tall, probably not good looking (honestly I don't know because I have had women approach me and tell me I am very good looking) could hold onto a woman when there is an ocean of men out there taller and/or better looking who the girl would want to get fucked by.

There is always a bigger fish, so why not share your meal with the bigger fish. At least I will still have some at the end of the day.

Even just half a year ago I would spit in the face of someone who would consider polyamory a good option. Honestly I still don't like it, but it seems to be the only realistic option for me to get regular sex and have a relationship.

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Title Polyamory seems to be the only somewhat realistic option for a non-chad to get into some sort of relationship
Author gruckendud
Upvotes 2
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Date March 1, 2023 4:08 PM UTC (3 weeks ago)
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[–]Last-Post20851 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

Sounds like cope. I am in an IT career making over $80k/year (good for my area) and I drive a Mercedes-Benz. Girls still aren't interested.

But I know for a fact girls would be interested in a tall man who works at McDonald's making minimum wage, as long as he was a handsome Chad.

[–]inkwell6841 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you planning on getting any cosmetic work done?

[–]SkookumTree 2 points3 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Get jacked, get to be charismatic enough to be a politician, get a huge social circle, never EVER make a social blunder, make seven figures. That easy.

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Just work on yourself bro

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

As opposed to what?

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I was saying that sarcastically since the comment I was replying to was making a joke about how nowadays for a non-chad under 6 foot tall man to be seen as a human being by a girl is to perform herculean feats of strength and gain superhuman levels of social skills. People always tell incels to "work on themselves" even though women do not have to work on themselves in the slightest and can obtain partners far out of their league, so I made my sarcastic comment.

[–]crypto_druid 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Who gives a fuck about what women have to or don't have to do?.

Worry about what you have to do, not about others.

Do you realise how petulant it sounds to go “why do I have to work on myself when other people don't?” you're being petty.

The short answer is......YOU DONT HAVE TO.

You can protest and do fuck all, the only person you're hurting is yourself. Youre not going to change the way the world works. A different set of rules apply to men than apply to women, sooner you accept that the better it will be for you because you ain't changing anything with your little life strike, you're hurting yourself and no one else.

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I hope you are right

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Find out for yourself

[–]crypto_druid 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The realisation that life is hard work for a man.

[–]FortniteAbobusWhitePill 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why do you need such relationshit?

[–]MasonSub4BlackPill 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

if you are ugly why would a woman want to get fucked by you? The way I see it, escorts are a more viable option because there wouldn't be any chance involved in whether or not you get intimacy

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I don't know for sure if I am ugly. I have had sex with very attractive women, some of them even making hundreds of thousands every month from their onlyfans. It is just that it has been 3 years since that has happened. I think I am probably better than the average guy, but even that is not enough, so I just consider myself ugly since I do not get approached by any women where I currently live. I do think I probably have body dismorphia.

I do want some intimacy. I would not want an escort because I would not be able to get hard knowing that I am going to fuck this girl and give her money. Plus the pressure would be on to get as much pleasure as I can within a certain time limit. At least in the polyamorous situation I would know that I would be able to have sex with the same girl again and for free. I don't think women love anyways, it would be sort of like having a friend with benefits I guess.

Overall I feel that friends with benefits is the greatest option a man has, but the polyamory option seems more realistic to obtain

It just sucks because had I been born earlier before things like online dating and social media I think I would have done a lot better, but even someone like me who is not a complete ugly person is still an incel because I am under 6 feet tall and I guess not good enough. It just shows how fucked things are. I can't imagine being even worse off than me yet there are many who are.

This just shows how deep and encompassing the black pill is.

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why do you think it was easier before online ?

it wasnt, it was harder. You had to actually have the balls to walk up to women and talk to them. Any slob can copy and paste messages into a screen where they dont actually have to face the girl or put any effort into….anything.

good news is you don’t have to use the internet. You can choose to take the difficult route but you’re going to have to endure discomfort, stress, pain and frustration. All things which most boys in the modern world are avoiding, but are necessary components in becoming a man

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because online dating has raised women's standards by a great order of magnitude. These woman can easily just go online and receive unlimited attention and can choose whichever sexual partner they want. If a girl would not match with you on a dating app, there is no point in expecting anything positive to come of interacting with her in real life. Say she does not like you when viewing you on a dating app, but meets you in person and does like you and wants a relationship. It would be a hollow relationship since she was not attracted to you enough to match online.

Online dating is the true indicator of women's preferences. Not to mention the fact that 50% of relationships now begin due to online dating.

Now approaching girls in person does not work because they have access to online dating. Men can be ostracized by society for approaching a woman. Also, just like in online dating, if you are under a certain looks threshold the woman will make you feel bad for even thinking that you were on her level to approach her.

This isn't the olden days before the internet where people were part of a local community.

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Now approaching girls in person does not work

How often does approaching girls online work for you?.

Talking to girls in person always has been and still is harder, it's why you won't do it....because you're scared of rejection and how others might think of you. So you take the easy route and go online.....and not get matches.

[–]crypto_druid 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Women who want families want a guy who is going to be able to contribute to the family. There’s nothing wrong with that.

just becuase you’re not Chad thundercock at college, doesn’t mean you have no other value as a man. You grow up and learn how to love, care, provide and protect a family, club whores and instagram attention beggars will not be interested in that, but who cares?, traditionally humble women will be interested

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Traditionally humble women don't exist in my age group. Even the morbidly obese are not traditionally humble, and I would have a hard time getting a morbidly obese girl, so there really is no point in a man to even try nowadays. Women want a guy who will carry a family and be the majority, if not sole provider.

Besides, say I do want to go down the beta bucks route and be some cuck for an unapreciative woman, I have no desire for chilidren and do not want to get married anyways.

At the end of the day the only thing a woman can objectively offer (barring a disability) is sex. The problem is that the number of men that have access to that sex is growing smaller and smaller every day.

There really is no winning

[–]crypto_druid 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Traditionally humble women don't exist in my age group

Of course they do, you're just far less likely to meet them in the superficial avenues that you choose to fester in.

You need to have social standing and stability. That's nothing to do with “beta buxxing” traditional women can earn money too.

“ I have no desire for chilidren and do not want to get married anyways,

So you want the superficial life but don't want superficial women, that's going to be tough.

“ At the end of the day the only thing a woman can objectively offer (barring a disability) is sex“

Jeez, with such a loving attitude towards women, it's hard to know why they wouldn't choose you.

You got a lot of maturing to go matey before women are going to consider you as a potential partner.

Get off bullshit pill websites and go travel the world when you graduate, learn how the world works by experiencing it, rather than accepting a version of life from a group of boys who have never lived

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

well , if you're considered good looking by some women but still afraid of the competition ,it would be better to change your location to a place when there's not a lot of competition but i don't know if you could afford such an option . maybe you need to accept being cucked but a lot of men wouldn't consider this as an option

[–]gruckendudBlackPill[S] 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I have accepted it. This is just what human civilization has come to. I feel things are on the brink, so why not take what I can get. Like I said, I do not think love or anything is real, and there is constant competition that hypergamous women will always be looking to monkeybranch to. Why not just play their game to at least get my dick a little bit wet now and again.

Geomaxxing would be good in the future, but I don't want to be far from my family

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Geomaxxing would be good in the future, but I don't want to be far from my family

your family should look for your happiness and encourage you to chase it , you don't want to be regretting one day for marrying an ungrateful cheating whore .

[–]AdvancedMap5092 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Get plastic surgery and money

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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