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why do men hate prettyboys getting girls far more than either masculine or older or ''ogreish'' men getting girls

riseofthepyu
February 24, 2023
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they hated jutin bieber, park jimin or tiktok influencers getting girls far more than brad pitt, geore clooney or some old gymcel getting girls, is there some reason for this?

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Title why do men hate prettyboys getting girls far more than either masculine or older or ''ogreish'' men getting girls
Author riseofthepyu
Upvotes 6
Comments 53
Date February 24, 2023 6:37 PM UTC (1 month ago)
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[–]PuertoRock007 3 points4 points  (32 children) | Copy Link

Ever heard of AMOGing?

It's because they know they can beat up or just intimidate the pretty boy and he'll lose his SMV.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

what if gymaxxed but pretty/neotenous face?

[–]PuertoRock007 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well probably not a gym maxed guy because he'll look more formidable then a pretty boy.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

he would be a prettyboy because of his cute/neotenous face, but will be gymaxxed, i notice men usually still dislike it.

[–]PuertoRock007 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't know I haven't seen that before, but I assume the gym maxed guy wouldn't look like an easy target like the pretty boy does.

[–]SilentFroggy 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Men wouldn’t hate him if he was gymmaxxed

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

honestly a lot of kpop boys or tiktok boys are gymcellish but get hated for having ''cute'' faces.

[–]SilentFroggy 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I don’t notice. But I think pretty boys with a masculine personality mogs feminine prettyboys.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

well, if he had a feminine personality or feminine dressing style, he would probably be a femboy instead of prettyboy, like astolfo.

[–]SilentFroggy 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not that kind of feminine. I’m talking about the kpop types

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

yeah kpop types can be gymaxxed but guys still hate them.

[–]SilentFroggy 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

It’s because they don’t have a masculine personality

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

honestly depends, some act cutesy, some act more cool.

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (19 children) | Copy Link

Ever heard of AMOGing?

I have. And it's dog shit. I think I was 26 when I first went to jiu jitsu. I'd fought since I could remember and was built like a brick shit house. A high school kid, no more than 17 and weighing half what I did, could have killed me one on one whenever he felt like it. Hadn't felt that sort of helplessness since I was a child.

After class do you think he shook me down for lunch money? He could have. I knew I couldn't do anything to him. Nah he said 'I hope you keep coming back'.

That amog shit is worthless. If anyone starts swinging their dick around, it's only a matter of time before someone unzips and a dick unfurls like a fireman's hose and hits the wall with a sound like you just threw a mid size fish at it. Big dicks know better than to show yours first. You'll never know a real fucking killer until it is too late.

Thanks for Ted talk or whatever but I hope someone learns from this

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (18 children) | Copy Link

do you have another theory on why whaat i said happens

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link

Probably loads of little things. But mostly because of the focus this community places on physical attractiveness.

The frankly insanely obvious inability for the ideology to explain huge, scary looking mother fuckers being extremely sexually successful leaves it out of the conversation for convenience.

It's way easier to say 'wah my fucking forehead bone is too whatever' than 'I don't want to go to the gym and a kickboxing class'. So they don't. Before you type at me, yes I'm being slightly reductive, don't be a fucking pedant.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

they are angrier at liking young prettyboys specifically than more ''ogre'' guys for lack of a better term, i don't have the explanation but it's a thing.

it's not just a thing in incel community, i noticed the ''justin is ghey'' jokes in 2008

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy Link

Nah I mean incels, red pill, manosphere, all of it. All put a fucking massive focus on physical attractiveness as either the reason they are unsuccessful or the reason they're not already successful. Oh? The good looking guys got pretty privelige in order to socialise? What about those of us that went out of our way to look as genuinely unsettling as possible? It spoils everyone's fun.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (14 children) | Copy Link

again, they are more angry at those guys being ''feminine or gay looking'' than them being privileged.

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (13 children) | Copy Link

I'll take your word for it.

But how many of this community's excuses hold up under this lens I wonder. Thank you for bringing it up.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (12 children) | Copy Link

they aren't nearly triggered about a guy that looks ''ruggedly handsome'' ''manlier'' or whatever else doing as good, so i think the explanation is something different.

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (11 children) | Copy Link

No. Not rugged. Scary. Dangerous.

[–]no_bling_just_dingrip GD4761 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

holy shit the tally has reached 7

hi koko#7

[–]riseofthepyu[S] -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

say something on topic

[–]no_bling_just_dingrip GD4761 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

the men feel like it shouldnt happen

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

why

[–]no_bling_just_dingrip GD4761 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

they find it unsettling that masculinity isnt whats attracting those women

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

prettyboys aren't totally femboy tbh, they are just slightly more neotenous.

[–]LonesomeBoy_ 1 point2 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

because their attraction has nothing to do with the natural selection side of things, purely just sexual selection; they're mad they're not playing the same game as them.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 1 point2 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

prettyboys are young and fertile guys, makes sense from a ''natural selection'' side.

[–]LonesomeBoy_ 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

actually let me rephrase that, they're both playing in the sexual selection game but prettyboys don't have to compete as hard due to their looks appealing to the female gaze. guys will see a masc guy and know that he has other qualities making him a worthy mate (i.e. protective, fighting ability, etc), while they see a prettyboy and know that all they did was exist to get the same results as the masc guy.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

i think it's more related to ''gay panic'' but i'm not sure why being somewhat groomed and neotenous got associated with homosexuality in the first place.

[–]LonesomeBoy_ 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

the gay panic thing you mention is also related to sexual selection.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

why did those looks got associated with homosexuality in the first place though? the looks make sense from a heterosexual sexual selection concept too, so it's weird and seems more cultural than organic.

[–]LonesomeBoy_ -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

probably because the features that make a prettyboy a prettyboy are seen as feminine ergo gay.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

they are more neotenous features than hardcore femboy features usually, but some degree of neoteny is helathy and fertile in both sexes.

maybe it's related to beautifying yourself being called gay in modern times.

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Then why aren't the masculine dudes having shit fits online?

[–]LonesomeBoy_ 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

because emotional wreckage and pettiness is a trait reserved for women. a masc guy will harbor prejudice and go "oh look, that gay looking prettyboy has more success than me" coupled with a sprinkle of passive aggressiveness, but they won't have a visible emotional freakout, online or irl.

[–]TaxNegative161 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, we don't, but OK.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

What?! I don't even care about them. Why would I care what girls they get? It's not like they're thugs or something.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

if you're not one of those guys then good for you, but you probbly heard or seen one of those guys.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Next time maybe say "some men"?

[–]AsuraTheDevilLion 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men dont hate those boys because grown men don't care about getting attention from 14, 15 year old girls. Most of the pretty boy fan base is consistent of rather young girls. Men care about women, and have you seen women go for those pretty boys generally?.

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

yes, girls from late teens to early 20's might still prefer them commonly, and kpop fanbase has women as old as 30's sometimes.

[–]upalseBogPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

> That platonic love for gigachad in the air allowing men to sit in the cuck chair.

Meanwhile, prettyboy can't be respected as a man, so it's an abomination.

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[–]Iamnothere000 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Because it feels like cheating. The pretty Boy just has to be born pretty, nothing else.

[–]Annual-Dentist-7529 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

puri what is with ur obsession with prettyboy hate I must know

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

i just want to learn the reason

[–]Annual-Dentist-7529 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Some dudes are going to be jealous of successful men

[–]riseofthepyu[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

they are hating prettyboys more than succesful anything else

[–]Annual-Dentist-7529 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I see it happen to all sorts of guys.

But maybe it happens with these guys in particular cuz they lack masculinity

Now stop simping for pretty boys there aren’t any on this sub

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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