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[–]grahamcookiefart 38 points39 points40 points 1 year ago (69 children) | Copy Link
"My body my choice" yeah your choice to have sex and your choice to take contraceptives that are 99% effective.
A man gets to choose not to have sex with crazies, and as you rightfully portrayed, feminists are making it very easy to identify them.
[–]Reapers-Hound 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (17 children) | Copy Link
That’s one thing I don’t understand about feminists. There’s so many contraceptives out there to prevent abortions from even needing to be an option
[–]Donatella94 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link
What we need is more extensive sex education.
But I would just like to mention, every contraceptive method has a failure rate, even with perfect usage (and let's be honest, nobody is perfect 100% of the time) and potential (and potentially serious) side effects. Also, not every sexual encounter is consensual, sadly, and children/young teens can be involved.
Once pregnancy occurs, possible reasons for abortions could be:
*Inability to afford a baby right now
*Already has kids and cannot care for another one
*Relationship problems / desire to avoid single motherhood
*Pregnancy and baby interfering with education/work
*Specific health reasons, such as cancer, mental health problems, needing medication that is not recommended during pregnancy
Should we punish all women just because some/most of them were not using or incorrectly using BC or their form of BC failed? Where do we draw the line?
[–]MyDearVase 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
If you don't want to raise the child, you can put it into adoption.
About 10% of the population has infertility problems, so there is always someone willing to adopt.
And before you tell me that pregnancy has a risk, there is only a 0.017% chance that you will die giving birth with modern technology.
[–]Donatella94 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Health risks depend on the individual's specific condition. It's not just about death, but that risk does rise if you restrict the right to abortion, as many obstetricians do not have a clear, black and white line as to when their patient's situation is critical enough to interfere. Life and health is always more at risk during pregnancy more so than when you are not pregnant.
I'm not sure if your "there is always someone willing to adopt" stance is serious. According the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services on any given day, almost 424,000 children are living in the U.S. foster care system and the number has been rising.
Abortion is not an easy decision. Giving up the baby for adoption is not an easy decision. But there should be a choice.
[–]MyDearVase 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It is serious because it is true. Rhere is, in fact, always someone willing to adopt a child.
If the number of children in foster care is increasing, that only means that the amount of children that enter foster care per unit of time is greater than the amount of adoptions done per unit of time. In other words, the rate of adoption is smaller than the rate of giving up to adoption, it does not invalidate the fact that there are a lot of people adopting.
This site: https://adoption.org/foster-system-work-usa
Also uses the same source as you and says "The average age of children entering foster care is eight and the average stay in foster care is two years", which is fast.
But there should be a choice.
You still have, go to a state that approves of what you are doing. I'm trying to convince you that what you are defending is evil as satan himself.
Or you can do what some indigenous people here in Brazil do: give birth, dig a hole and put the baby in there until it dies of suffucation: old school abortion. Not recomended since it has a 100% chance of causing heavy psychological trauma for the next 20 years.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm tired of people calling this a punishment. A punishment is something forced upon you. No one forced you to get pregnant.
If you just keep throwing your dirty laundry in a corner of your bedroom there's going to come a day when you have no more clothes to wear are you going to stand there screaming that you're being punished or should you have been doing the laundry all along?
Consequences of actions or inactions are not punishment they are a result of your choices or lack thereof.
[–]Donatella94 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Having your body used against your will to keep someone else alive is not ethical. Yes, it sounds a lot like we want to punish women.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Abortion is using your body against your will? Jesus Christ you people are nuts. Wahhhhhhhhh wahhhhhhhhh. I had sex and my body did what it was designed to do - I'm being punished!
You're being immature. I'm done arguing.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Acting like every consequence and inconvenience is a punishment is childish - get away from me with this immaturity b*******. grow up.
[–]Reapers-Hound 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes more sex Ed (seriously how bad is American sex Ed).
BC isn’t 100% but is dam close especially if using more than one.
Completely agree abortion for rape and medical issues.
If you have sex without BC and get pregnant that’s on you that’s complaining about getting flung from a car in a crash not wearing a belt.
[–]casra888 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Yes. They don't care about prevention. It's all about killing and not facing any consequences.
[–]NickpaskGR -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
No it's not.
[–]casra888 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Prove otherwise. The pro abortion women are suspiciously silent about birth control. It's not perfect? Double up. Even triple up. Is it about preventing pregnancy or about killing and not facing consequences?
[–]NickpaskGR -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Are unwanted pregnancies new to you? You think that condoms dont break? You think that pills and birth control always work? What about in rape cases? You're a fucking morron. u/SAMMYYYTEEH do your job already.
[–]casra888 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You think that women dont lie about being on the pill? The pill, depo shot, iud etc work for rape victims. Which are a very, very small percentage of abortions. Cry some more. Why is so little being said about pregnancy prevention and so much said about abortion?
[–]NickpaskGR 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You are saying that all feminists are getting pro-abortion feminists are lying to get pregnant on purpose just to kill the fetus. Are you in 5th generation of inbreeding, or are you really that fucking dumb?
[–]casra888 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not saying that at all. You're imagining that. Do women lie? Of course! Do women tell the truth? Of course! Do some get pregnant just to get an abortion? Some have very proudly stated that. Were they lying or telling the truth? Do you have any logical argument or just childish insults? Try harder.
[–]casra888 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (49 children) | Copy Link
My wallet, my choice. It's not at all about preventing pregnancy. They want to get pregnant. Then they want to show how much power they have by killing an innocent life with zero consequences. It's all about control.
[–]TurbulentHovercraft0 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
You should seek mental health help, wow, your poor mother, ask Anna Duggar how well that worked out for her and her rapist brother that you most likely support. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/vms9v9/maga_nazi_proudly_admits_that_they_are_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf you must love this guy
No logical argument. Just childish insults. You lost.
[+]Bluesiebear2005 -6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago (46 children) | Copy Link
An abortion isn't killing a baby
[–]casra888 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (28 children) | Copy Link
What do you imagine a fetus is?
[–]Bluesiebear2005 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (27 children) | Copy Link
A bundle of cells, a zygote. A baby isn't a baby until well into a pregnancy
[–]casra888 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (25 children) | Copy Link
Semantics. It's a life. It's a baby. What day does a fetus graduate to baby? Please be specific.
[–]Bluesiebear2005 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (24 children) | Copy Link
Around 5 months which is when it 'gains' consciousness i.e becomes human. It's not a life at all
[–]casra888 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (23 children) | Copy Link
Around? Please be more specific. What causes it to become a baby? How do you measure if it is or not? How is it not alive if it's growing?
[–]Bluesiebear2005 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Is cancer alive? Its constantly growing so should we just stop cancer treatment since its killing something that's growing and by your definition 'alive'. And you can't be specific since every pregnancy is different. It's the 5-6 month mark. Seems I was right about you being unequipped for this conversation
[–]casra888 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Cancerous cells absolutely are alive! Find me an oncologist who says otherwise. A human being is not a cancer. Ok. What is your criteria for becoming a baby. Be specific. You're a pigeon playing chess.
[–]Darkwolf90 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Cancer is alive, however its a genetic mutation of your own cells that exists in a parasitic relationship with its host. Life starts at conception as it is a function with the purpose of developing a life however abortion can be justified for the same reason self-defense can despite killing being killing.
[–]casra888 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (16 children) | Copy Link
What is it killing?
[–]Bluesiebear2005 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (15 children) | Copy Link
A bundle of cells, a zygote not that I expect you to understand what that means.
[–]casra888 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (14 children) | Copy Link
When do you imagine this bundle of cells becomes a baby? Please be specific. Childish insults. No logical argument. Sad.
[–]Bluesiebear2005 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (13 children) | Copy Link
This bundle of cells becomes a baby at 5 months when it gains consciousness. You say I don't have a logical argument yet you are very clearly unequipped for this discussion. Curious
[–]casra888 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Ok, how do you measure that? What's the test?
[–]Bluesiebear2005 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I ain't a doctor ask one of them
[–]casra888 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (10 children) | Copy Link
You "ain't" an English teacher either. You put forth the statement, back it up.
[–]Stanzy2 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did you know, 99% is not 100%. Very insane I know. Maybe like, there should be a possibility to stop it if, you know, that 1% happened, so that we don't have loads of unwanted babies. The average person in the age of 19-28 have sex 112 times a year.
[–]onlyidiotsgoonreddit 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They actually think this is some kind of threat. "If you don't let me kill kids, I'll stop having sex with 100 different guys!"
[–]seregios22 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shut up and take my upvote for making me laugh
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, so they know how sex works. Jeez, you certainly can't tell by the numbers of abortions.
Women but especially feminists want a world full of choices, options, potential, and rights; with zero responsibility, accountability or consequences.
They keep playing the oppression Olympics by calling their consequences "punishment."
Always the hero or the victim; never the villain.
[–]Zealousideal_Car_163 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (18 children) | Copy Link
Wait is dis sub pro-choice Or pro-life
[–]Interesting-Eye-5464[S] 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Does it matter?
[–]Zealousideal_Car_163 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Kinda ._.
[–]Interesting-Eye-5464[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why?
[–]ondronCZ -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
yes?
[–]Interesting-Eye-5464[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
[–]ondronCZ 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
cuz one thing is being anti feminist, the other being anti women. I want to know where this sub stands
[–]Interesting-Eye-5464[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think there’s a mix
[–]ondronCZ 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
that kinda proofs that we still need feminism tho XD or equalism or whatever you want to call it.
[–]Interesting-Eye-5464[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How so?
[–]ondronCZ 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
because women's rights are still in peril? And people have a problem with people who fight for those rights. Which just proves that they are needed.
[–]WizziBot -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pro choice I hope
[+]TurbulentHovercraft0 -24 points-23 points-22 points 1 year ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
Pro incel, like this https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/vms9v9/maga_nazi_proudly_admits_that_they_are_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf and also ask Anna Duggar, and her rapist brother (who you guys idolize) here’s your hero guys https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/josh-duggar-transferred-federal-prison
Edit: ban me all you want, that’s says it all about your sub. Links provided
https://www.reddit.com/r/worldnewsvideo/comments/vnfqfv/our_rights_liberty_and_freedom_are_under_attack/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
[–]Interesting-Eye-5464[S] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think that opinion really applies in this case. Go you though ✊🏿
[–]Zealousideal_Car_163 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thats a nice argument senator why don't you back it up with a source?
[–]lordluke107 points 1 year ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Where are the incels?
[–]NotAShaaaak 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In their mind
[–]Zealousideal_Car_163 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My "source" meant this sub supporting that
[+]Luci___888 -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cos insulting physical appearance is an intelligent and valid form of argument.
[+]flameguy4500 -7 points-6 points-5 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude. Fuck off. You're falling for the same trap they did, where you're so focused on opposing the feminsts, that you don't realize how awful you yourself are acting.
[–]plagueRATcommunist -3 points-2 points-1 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
the average antifeminist is not old enough to have sex
[+]SuperSupremeKai -6 points-5 points-4 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is going too far.
[–]Interesting-Eye-5464[S] 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How?
[–]GltyUntlPrvnInncnt -5 points-4 points-3 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Dude, this has nothing to do with anti-feminism.
I think it does
[–]WizziBot 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Partly,
[–]evergrowingtoenail -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well wtf even is anti-feminism? Does this sub think that women should lose all their rights?
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes all women who disagree me are just ugly and mean. Such a bizarre mix of misgonstic and sour grapes thinking.
[+]ondronCZ -9 points-8 points-7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hmmm ad-hominem, sounds like a reasonable and fun-to-engage-in argument.
[–]HeatInternational783 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Big Shirley is angry! 🤣🤣
[–]Jarrett2255434 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Chad voice: Your terms are acceptable
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