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should men start settling?

Panzercannon03

May 11, 2022
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-men-are-settling-for-mrs-good-enough
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Title should men start settling?
Author

Panzercannon03

Upvotes 16
Comments 26
Date May 11, 2022 3:09 AM UTC
(4 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/AntiFeminists
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/antifeminists/comments/un02ep/should_men_start_settling/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/AntiFeminists/should-men-start-settling.1114688
https://theredarchive.com/post/1114688
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Comments

[–]CallOfRedditNSFW 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Lmaoooooo the daily beast saying this shit

[–]Soontir_Fel 8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Take away is that men have realistic standards in dating and women for the most part do not.

[–]reevelainen 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I think getting a companion from someone just because one needs a companion is weakness. Why would anyone give hope of love to someone one definitely doesn't love?

A man who doesn't handle his life on his own is weak. Love should be treated a like a lottery win, it's great if it happens, but surely we can't live our life so that eventually we'll win in the lottery and it'll save us from miserable life. No.

We should aim for good life without a partneri, and, if we're lucky enough, we could find love on top of that. Never so that my life would be good if only I had wife. It's stupid attitude and would lead into miserable rest of your life.

We have so many things to be thankful about, nothing is more pathetic than being bitter just because a lottery win, or love didn't happen.

[–]BrolyParagus 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

We have a 50/50 gender split in this world, and this person here is talking about winning the lottery. Lol.

[–]reevelainen 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What part you didn't understand? Why would marry a brainless monkey just to get a wife? Lol. Next time try to understand what you're reading. Lol.

[–]Naru4odo 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't men do that already? Don't we get together with women who are dumber, weaker, earn less...I could go on but you get the message, because most women generally want men that are better than themselves. So we as men tend to be with women who are.... Get it?

[–]Impressive-Pop1134 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link

Instead of settling down for a woman he doesn't desire, a man should constantly strive to improve himself. And it isn't just money. Money will only attract women, but at the end it's your behaviour that will keep them. There is a difference. Said man should hit the gym, work towards finding a better job/and/or a promotion at his current one. Style and hygiene is also very crucial, so dear men, wash/bathe/shave regularly, apply quality deodorant and so on. As for style, ask your female relatives/friends/shop assistants for advice and check out the various subreddits dedicated to male fashion and dressing style. Finally, work on improving your personality, DO NOT appear desparate- it shows us you have few/no options and therefore are an undesirable "mate". If you weren't, someone would have gone out with you already. It probably won't be true, but that's just how we are programmed to think by nature. Experienced men don't go with whatever they find. Improving yourself= more confidence = better character/behaviour = bigger dating pool = having the opportunity to settle down with a woman you actually like.

I know it seems obvious. But around 60% of men I see everyday are too lazy or have given up on working on themselves. Since they aren't millionaires, they can't do anything but keep on complaining and in the process going red-pilled. Excuses, excuses, excuses. Every man has two options: Accept that life is unfair and women are the ones choosing the best genes from the big list of desirable partners, therefore work on improving and actually having success, or keep complaining and staying single and bitter forever.

[+]Panzercannon031 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (13 children) | Copy Link

What does "appearing desperate" look like? Some everyday (not extreme) examples would be great.

[–]Impressive-Pop1134 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

It varies really. For me it's a man who doesn't change his attitude to appeal to a woman, isn't afraid to actually disagree with the woman and tell it to her directly, even if it may anger her or drive her away. A man who will hold her responsible for her actions. Picture this scenario:

You are a man and have a date with this avarage (6-6.5/10) woman. It's time for you to meet but she's late for the date. She finally comes, but she's 30 minutes late and does not have a reasonable excuse (like an accident, traffic etc.). Coming late is a sign of disinterest and disrespect. If a woman is attached to a man, she would never be late and respect his time. For me, the right thing for the man to do in this scenario, is tell her directly that he has his principles and won't tolerate her disrespect and "unserios" behaviour, then leave and leave her alone on the spot. This will make her think:"Hey, this guy isn't like the other simps who tolerate my BS. He probably has many options since he left me so easily" I think the woman would be very surprised but intrigued in the same time because this man is clearly very different and pretty "alpha" with a lot of options/women to chose from since he can so easily turn down a woman.

Give women what they deserve. It's time women are held responsible for their actions. Men need to stand their ground and show stoicism, a trait men nowadays desparately need.

[+]Panzercannon031 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link

The way you write I can't tell if you're a dude or a chick. Maybe that's on purpose.

In either respect, if a girl showed up 30 mins late I would probably be texting her at 7 mins in. If I didn't hear anything I'd text once more at 15 mins in. After that I'd probably be pretty pissed. At 20 mins in past me would have been worried something happened to her. But now I'd just order a meal or drink for myself, and then when she gets here, pass by her on her way out: "sorry, but you missed the date. It's ok, I went ahead and went through with it anyways. You had a good time, but I wasn't feeling it. Bye"

[–]Impressive-Pop1134 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

I'm a chick actually. Maybe I should have stated before. And yeah, I write pretty ambiguously at times, it's not on purpose really, I just don't feel the need to outright state it without being asked.

Your hypothetical reaction seems reasonable to me. I'd do the same if I were a man, just not letting a woman do whatever she wants. If we have an arranged meeting, she/he has to show respect. Although as I said before, if she has a believable/reasonable excuse, I'd definitely give her another chance.

[+]Panzercannon031 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

It's always refreshing when I run across women who don't drink from the feminist tit. That milk went sour in the 90s.

Have you ever went on a date with a woman yourself, just to experience it? Not saying you're a lesbian but it would be an interesting experiment for you to try first dates with girls just to see. You could write a book about it. Call it "50 first dates with feminists".

[–]Impressive-Pop1134 -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Haha. I swear, that's like the biggest compliment for me. It brings me so much joy to be called anti-feminist or anything like that. The movement sounds cool in theory, but in reality it's a battle for domination funded by smart billionaires with one goal - reduction in global population. Feminism is no different than any other Marxist ideology. The "repressed" class is being "helped/empowered" while it's actually being exploited for others' interests. It's actually pretty genius. Just compare the birthrates of Western society and the East(The arabic countries). Europe's population has been experiencing a big drop, while it's the opposite for the Islam world.(Islamic? My English isn't fluent). I won't be surprised if that becomes the norm if islam influence takes over the world with it's continuously growing population in the near future.

Funny thing is, I've actually been with a woman before. She was a good person but her feminism was a bit too pushy at times. She cheated on me later so her political views weren't really the problem.

[+]Panzercannon031 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link

Ok tell me more about the dates. How did the first date go? And so forth?

[–]Impressive-Pop1134 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

We didn't really go on dates like how you imagine. There were no restaurants, no picnics, I wouldn't say we had a proper date. We just kind of went for a walk sometimes. I met her while I was working in my home town. I'd rather not say more because it's a public discussion and everyone can read it, plus it's a bit personal and I'm not very comfortable with sharing information about myself so quickly. I hope you understand. :)

[–]golden_eyed_cat 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you, however, when it comes to the example with the date, I'd take a slightly different approach if I were a man in that situation.

If being on time was important for me, I'd simply let my date know that I have to go home and have other thigs to do, and I'd allow her to create plans for a date some other time. This would communicate that I have my own standards, without coming off as lecturing, while, at the same time, leaving her an opportunity to make up for her lack of punctuality (if she, of course, wants to. If she doesn't, then putting more effort into such a relationship isn't worth it).

[–]Impressive-Pop1134 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I see your point. However, it's not so much a matter of being busy as it is about respecting his time. The date can serve as sort of a test. To see how the woman will react/whether she'll show respect without warning her beforehand. To see her "natural" behaviour. I hope it makes sense.

[+]Panzercannon031 points 4 years ago* [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link

I use first dates as shit tests too. If she offers to pay her half, I let her do it I don't fight to pay. Why? If she pays without fuss or microexpressions I would know she views me as an equal. If she pays but has a snarl or a look of surprise that I accepted, then I know she doesn't view me as an equal.

And obviously if she doesn't pay her half at all, or it has to be asked: then I know she doesn't see me as an equal.

The only time I pay the full amount (her part and mine) is if I have a lot of confidence that there's going to be a third date: meaning obviously high chemistry. This is because at this point I view it as a gift I'm giving her. Not as an obligation. But even then she should still offer to pay for the tip.

[–]Impressive-Pop1134 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I suppose it really depends on the type of relationship between the man and woman. This might sound controversial or even gold-digging, but I believe it's a good thing for the man to take the initiative and pay. See, this is one of those things feminism can't change. It was the same way with the primitive/archaic humans. The man brought food he had hunted to prove that he's a talented hunter and is able to provide for her and their children. I tend to apply the same logic here -by paying, the "modern" man proves his capability of providing and taking care of the woman, or at least contributing to the family budget. The man should pay only if the date has potential to go further, if he sees a good future partner in the woman in question. Of course, I don't support men paying for obvious gold-diggers, nor paying every time. It's really in the man's interest to pay(like a good investment) but only if the woman is "worth" it/if she can make a good partner.

[–]buried_alive0 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Men already do that. It's why never dating down works well for women. It's women who should start settling.

[–]SamaelET 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

“Marriage is challenging,” says Matlack, of the Good Men Project. “Are you always madly in love with your spouse? No. But being a good husband and a good father is about trusting the other person, about being willing to deal with difficult stuff. I think it’s a sign of maturity on the part of men to admit that."

Feminists are just tradcons. They define men as tools for women, they think men only exist to be good husband and father. They see men settling as men finally mature enough to be a good little tool.

[–]casra888 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Never ever settle. I don't know of any man who has settled whose life isn't a living hell.

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_MUSIC4FB 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I keep trying to talk to "just attractive enough" women only to find out they're personalities kinda suck too. How much more settling should I do? Lol I've been with women that don't value me as a person, it's worse than being single. Men shouldn't ever settled.

[–]SnooJokes1401 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd rather die a virgin then have sex with a bitch.

[–]drivenmadnow 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

The only time you should settle is when you're in a coffin

[–]PM_ME_YOUR_MUSIC4FB1 point 4 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

I keep trying to talk to "just attractive enough" women only to find out they're personalities kinda suck too. How much more settling should I do? Lol I've been with women that don't value me as a person, it's worse than being single. Men shouldn't ever settled.

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