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Tall men reported greater relationship satisfaction and lower levels of cognitive or behavioral jealousy than short men.

RSDevotion1

February 8, 2023

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Title	Tall men reported greater relationship satisfaction and lower levels of cognitive or behavioral jealousy than short men.
Author	RSDevotion1
Upvotes	146
Comments	55
Date	February 8, 2023 6:12 PM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/BlackPillScience
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I’m just trying to help you here.

You may be referring to Korean pop culture. But you may have forgotten in America that Asian also quantifies Chinese, Indian, Indonesian, 30+ other countries.

Unfortunately if you are white passing in America it does not matter if you were German, Polish, Western European, Eastern European. As Americas do not care as they easily pass for white. Much like how Asians are looked as one group but are made up several countries.

What I can agree is that dating minorities has become more prevalent, but if you had to compare in male groups of Hispanic, Asian, Black, and White. Asian men are at the lowest in America.

Here is a representation of Asian men in America:

https://www.reddit.com/r/aznidentity/comments/pmu5rn/visual_representation_of_the_population_of_all/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

Also if you referring to Asian culture of family, as it’s a common misconception, that Asian men are repressed. That’s an American thing. If you go to Asian countries it’s quite similar to america where the major group is considered to be about hook up culture. Such as Phillipines and Vietnam, where local women believe many men are interested in hooking up rather than being married. Much like American women talking about hook up culture.

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The female preference for tall partners may present an increased risk of desertion or cuckoldry (paternity by another male) to shorter men. The mixed mating or dual strategy hypothesis (Gangestad and Simpson, 2000) suggests that women may cuckold their long term partner by mating with a man that has a high genetic quality (in order to produce high quality offspring) whilst retaining the resources of their primary (lower quality) partner. Whilst cuckoldry represents a substantial problem for all men (Baker and Bellis, 1995; Platek and Shackelford, 2006), it may be of greater concern for short men. Women unable to secure the most desirable (i.e. tall) partner for a long term relationship could adopt a dual strategy, retaining the investment of a less attractive (i.e. short) man whilst engaging in extra pair copulations with a more desirable (i.e. tall) man.

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And as for children, studies show that 99% of them have the right father listed.

Source?

You listed a retracted table. Usually if something is removed from a scientific publication it means that it was inaccurate.

Here, for a cohort of military officers, we show that tallness had a indirect effect on male lifetime fitness, independent of socioeconomic success. The crucial factor was not that tall men had more fecund wives, but that tall men more often had a second family. Selection worked strongly in favor of very tall men, not just against short men. Since there were no hints of any evolutionary check on this selection, these findings suggest unconstrained directional selection for tallness in men.

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s002650100370

Competitive sperm banks require men to be at least 5'10.

https://www.midwestspermbank.com/become-a-donor/

Why don't you believe it adequately compares?

Because women are more selective about male height than men are for female breasts.

Should women who are average looking expect their husbands to cheat on them and be constantly jealous? Why or why not?

Maybe, but women face no risk of cuckoldry, which is a critical component of the OP study.

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Cuckoldry can be reduced due to societally enforced monogamy and the availability of paternity testing.

From a more robust metanalysis:

Paternal discrepancy (PD) occurs when a child is identified as being biologically fathered by someone other than the man who believes he is the father. This paper examines published evidence on levels of PD and its public health consequences. Rates vary between studies from 0.8% to 30% (median 3.7%, n = 17). Using information from genetic and behavioural studies, the article identifies those who conceive younger, live in deprivation, are in long term relationships (rather than marriages), or in certain cultural groups are at higher risk.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1733152/

And what does it really tell you that military men who were taller where more likely to cheat?

That they are more sexually selected by women.

You could probably also do studies and show women with lower waist hip ratio or bigger boobs were more likely to have children.

Care to link them?

All the short men I know are in happy relationships. It's not the deciding factor.

The OP study suggests otherwise.

[–]tinyhermione 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

The OP study suggests otherwise.

Does it? It can just as well be explained by insecurity. Being jealous and controlling doesn't mean there's any reason to. Lots of people are very irrationally jealous, usually because of anxiety and insecurity. They make controling partners and have bad relationships because of this.

median 3.7%,

Still 96% of children does have the right father. Height wasn't mentioned as a factor. It was couples being poor, young, non monogamous, in long distance relationships and from disadvantaged ethnic groups. The number is much lower in educated, married grownups who are in stable relationships.

Cuckoldry can be reduced due to societally enforced monogamy and the availability of paternity testing

Is there socially enforced monogamy though? We live in a culture where being single or in poly relationships is socially acceptable. If you don't want to commit, you don't have to. If there's no children, how is it different from normal cheating? And then, men cheat more.

Care to link them?

I don't have a specific study. It's obvious that pretty women will have more opportunities to cheat. You can look it up if you want to.

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