Slide 1- also addressed in Part 1.
Slide 2- “you thought you ate- misandry isn’t pointing out what the patriarchy is”… I hate “ate” being used in that context but notice how she literally never actually pointed out what the patriarchy is in her initial tweet… she just accused Phil of being part of the monolith who created it.
Slide 3- “that expectation is not oppression”- interesting- I can kind of see where she’s coming from here I don’t believe either of us sexes are oppressed in the western world- there’s just toxic gender expectations and double standards (for both of us) which there shouldn’t be.
Slide 4- someone calling her out about her comment about “men getting annoyed with the system they created” by saying Phil didn’t create it, and her doubling down by saying “men created it and is Phil not a man who upholds masculinity?”- (I mean masculinity is a social construct anyway; effeminate men are just as valid, so no actually, men as a collective don’t uphold masculinity, but she’s upholding toxic masculinity and toxic femininity all at once)- Ender calls her out again by telling her he said Phil didn’t create it and that his mum is a woman but that doesn’t make every woman his mum. She says “your mum being your mum is a very specific category, being a general man in society is not” (even though being a man who’s responsible for gendered stereotypes and laws is a very specific category of man… of course she doesn’t realise that) and tries to argue that Ender’s point doesn’t work. Ender then states that Phil isn’t a monolith- he’s not a “general” man in society and even if he was it doesn’t mean he’s the one who created the patriarchy. D gets back with “Phil is a man, no?” Ender (who is wonderfully patient by the way) mentions how irrelevant that is because Phil didn’t create it regardless of her efforts to place collective responsibility on him, and therefore isn’t responsible for it. She tells him that “men” (you know, this massive 3 billion headed monster) are responsible for the patriarchy and that Phil merely being a man feeds into it.
Slide 5- somebody tries to educate her that there’s no secret club of men conspiring to oppress women and Ender tells her to either prove how Phil created it or she failed to make her point.
Slide 6- somebody points out that she sounds really triggered; then she tells them their social skills are inadequate (again, with the casual ableism; struggling with social skills is a common autistic trait so comments like that act as somewhat ableist microaggressions…)- there’s also a misogynistic comment about how women deserve bears which is horrible. this woman is misandrist- not all of us are.
Slide 7- a weird dig at white liberals… that’s the difficult part of standing up for male issues at times- the toxic right-wing subculture that blames “liberals” for everything.
Slide 8- somebody calling her an overpriveleged white woman. She says “women aren’t overpriveleged”-he said a * white* woman… singular- he never said women.. it’s funny considering she zoned in on Phil being a white man earlier, she overlooks somebody pointing out that she’s a white woman. Then she does the “I’m a woman so you’re talking about women when you talk about me”…. at least she’s consistent in treating both men and women as monoliths- just one is a good monolith and anything said negative about one of them is a negative comment about them all; and the other is a bad monolith who are all responsible for each other’s actions rather than just their own. Then she does the “again women aren’t privileged” routine. There are privileges that women face (and us white women in western society have it better than ever- stop with the victimhood mentality), just as there are double standards women face (but guess what? There are double standards that affect men too) ….
Slide 9- calling out the fact that she denigrated a whole race and made her issues with men out to be Phil’s fault. She gets back with “is the grammar of they created wrong?” (who is “they”?) and “is he not a white man?” (he is, but that doesn’t mean he’s responsible for the wrongs of other white men). “Are white men not the ones at the top of the pyramid who cannot be oppressed” (even if most powerful people are white, most white people aren’t in positions of power or at the top of the pyramid). “Am I a bigot for telling the truth”… given that she hasn’t told the truth anyway that’s a weird comment to make, but she’s a bigot for treating men as collective powerful monsters, and women as weak helpless victims… for someone who claims to be all for equality she sure infantilises women a lot. Then out come the toxic gender norms- “whiny men” (we all know she wouldn’t call a woman calling out misogyny “whiny”), “wah wah” (mocking men who cry), and “poor lickle diddums got his feelings hurt” (it’s attitudes like that, that are why men don’t open about their feelings- those who encourage them to do so are the same ones who mock them for being weak, fragile, insecure, or worse, “wusses” and “pussies” when they do- that “did he get his widdle feewings hurt” attitude is offensive)- again we all know she wouldn’t make a comment like that towards a woman.
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