Hamza made me miserable

anthonyrecenello · 2023-02-12T08:13:53+00:00

Just so you know…

Working out Meditating Being productive

That’s not red pill. That’s the stuff red pill adds in to make it not seem creepy af.

That’s normal basic life advice that all gurus teach.

It’s all the other stuff that fucks everyone up.

It’s like going to a party in the bad part of town and the punch bowl is spiked with roofies.

You were getting some cute punch, but that punch is also laced with bullshit.

Andro_Polymath · 2023-02-12T09:38:10+00:00

I knew Hamza wasn't shit when I started noticing that his "girlfriends" all seemed barely legal and with low self-esteem and high gullibility. I remember one video (which I'm sure his gf at the time edited for him) where he used an arrow to point towards said gf on film with the caption: "Use your gf for free labor" or something close to this.

His view of women (and obsession and fetishization of white women) is fundamentally unhealthy and comes from a place of low self-esteem, racial and gender resentment, and self-hatred. He's the type of person who could never maintain or hold onto a relationship with a woman who asserts her boundaries, and that's a big red flag that all women should pay attention to for potential partners.

SlimWorm · 2023-02-12T08:01:38+00:00

Thank you for sharing your experience. He’s extremely narcissistic and has hurt someone close to me too.

He made a post about “ how to make a cult” where he notes that socially isolating people is one of the goals, as it means they only have him to look to for a “friend”.

This stuff is so dark and scary.

2023-02-12T09:32:10+00:00

A guy embarrassed by his own ears so he wears a hoodie during the videos want to teach about self confidence 😆

DeezNufz · 2023-02-12T12:12:17+00:00

I fell for his content when I was in a dark time too. My friend helped me see how it was negatively affecting me and pulled me out. I'd begun associating my worth to how good I was at getting partners.

I'd always hear some things from him that I didn't agree with, like how we shouldn't play video games at all, and that working hard is a masculine trait, that housewives are better women (I've always considered myself a feminist, I would never subscribe to that kind of belief.)

I'm glad my friend was able to make me consciously see things about him that I kept ignoring before. I'm glad I was able to leave that cult before it got too bad for me.

I'm glad you're out too 🙏 I'm much happier now as well with a way healthier view of "hard work".

I like to think that I pick up the positives and leave the negatives after every phase of my life. So Hamza did teach me some things. I work harder than I used to & try to keep good habits. But I no longer do it religiously. Doing so burnt me out back then.

Supershinobi3 · 2023-02-12T07:56:25+00:00

Well I was also in a similar position like you and actually he was the first guy who introduced me to redpill. I also followed his advice of working out, meditation and time table but like yes it made me feel good for some time after that I felt really empty I felt like I had lost a part of me and this isn't me who compares other people around him and looks down on them at first I thought yeah must a problem with me but these two things were the signs that I should stop watching this guy The first one was that how he tells that you should forgive your parents for mistreating you in your childhood cuz they didn't knew better about raising a child, and my father is a manipulator and a shit person with double standards and has abused me both physically and mentally so no way in hell I'm going to forgive him. The thing that is wrong with this statement of "you should forgive your parents for mistreating you in your childhood" is that you're were a child at that time who is weak both physically and mentally, and parents shouldn't hurt you just cuz their boss scolded them at work, they're your children you should make them feel safe around you, by forgiving them for their actions they're not taking accountability for it and in the end you took all the damage and they didn't faced it's consequences but on the other side you had to deal with the trauma they gave you so yeah this was some shit advice he gave. Second was that software developers are incel and evil people this was the last straw, he made a community post about that software Devs are evil and don't support them, I was "How can you say that when cuz of those people you have this dream of becoming a 'digital nomad' and what about youtube it's cuz of those devs you were able to create these channel and earn this money that you're so proud of" And also he was following AT so yeah left him and never looked back I think I'll have to remove his videos from my history since they keeping popping now and then.

LarryPorkchop · 2023-02-15T01:09:36+00:00

Honestly....

I watched his video about redpill youtubers. I think it was called "Redpill youtubers are traumatised" or sth like this. After that video I really thought he was one of the good guys I kid you not I was like 'finally someone who's really going to help others!'

But then I noticed in the rest of his videos he seems very infatuated and so full of himself like "Oh you have to do this exactly otherwise you're a loser' and he just sounded like he pretends to be some sort of god who knows everything and push these things to the extreme.

I wouldn't consider myself an ex-redpill. I've followed them for like 3 months back in 2020 but it still has affected my mental health and interactions with females. Ever since then I got this serious despise on all of them and I'm conving anyone I can to detox from these guys as much as possible.

Coming back to your story, I'm really sorry you had to go through all this and I hope you're doing great now. Best of luck to you!

Lighthero34 · 2023-02-22T20:33:26+00:00

Hamza has been a hack for some time now. You're not alone.

Individual_Cow_2580 · 2024-04-05T02:10:15+00:00

I had a similar take on hamza here in this video

RobinAndBeastboy · 2024-04-23T23:46:19+00:00

Okay, so you're allowing a Youtuber to dictate how you feel about yourself & your perception of men? You said it yourself, "teenagers", not grown men like can rationalise with his advice and positively accentuate their outlook..its inevitable that kids will perceive things in the wrong manner, it doesn't mean invaluable experiences shouldn't be shared.

See it this way, I used to be Muslim & I left the religion on the basis I HATE Muslims, I used to think it was the religion but it's an actual beautiful religion with shitty people (not all), then it dawned on me... the religion is there to advise & guide but it's up to the person to implement their logic on what's been left out. Now if maniacs starts being disorganised & erratic then that's entirely down to them because that's their personality.. its not the religion or guidance that makes these lunatics.

Also, you mentioned about what Hamza said about piercings, coloured hair etc.. he's going by a stereotype which all have conventions & he's right. If you're an anomaly then you are one, he wouldn't suppress you on your aesthetic given the circumstance. Lastly, it's never black & white, there's other colours.. so you can't insinuate him talking about women not getting along with their parents is him pinpointing abusive scenarios because he wouldn't advocate for abusive parenthood. You've got to think logically when you watch his content and understand why he says what he does opposed to assuming the worst which isn't critical.

Never let dickheads ruin your experience and relationship with him, 95% of his audience are dumb power obsessed virgins who doesn't understand social dynamics, hard work & discipline.. the same way when there's stupid people watching Football, I'm not going to stop enjoying football because there's ridiculous supporters out there. Hope you restore your connection and proceed with your growth.

ThatRedditGuy48 · 2023-02-13T17:38:38+00:00

He is an unarguably young guy who does have life experiences that people could learn from. The problem lies in the foundations of his thinking, being extremely paranoid and untrusting of women in general. I think healthy people, rather healthy women don’t act like the way he describes them, sometimes outright, sometimes between the lines. His advice about mental and physical health is good, and when he focused more on that, it was a better place to be in and watch him. However, with a lot of the Jeffrey and Adonis videos, he seems to generalize heavily, and while I’m not doubting for a minute that people like the ones he describes negatively exist, it’s definitely not the whole.

He seems to relay a good message with some of his videos, but then sprinkles in some red pill BS here and there, and more often than not as of late.

Most important thing I’d say is recognize everyone has faults, and when you are trying to learn from anyone, don’t trust what they say blindly and accept it as fact, especially if they lack experience. You must decide for yourself what your values are and gain a healthier view of relationships and life in general. Comes with a lot of contemplation and action as well.

QuerulousShark · 2023-02-12T10:17:09+00:00

women don't need to go on this 10 years self improvement journey just to be able to date lol

Critical_Lettuce2899 · 2023-02-12T09:17:09+00:00

I think Hamza isn't perfect. But for every 2 wrong things he does or says, you can learn 8 good things, Hamza is basically considered soft red pill. However, iam glad that you are much happier

MriFrog · 2023-10-03T04:16:10+00:00

I'm really late to this but I don't see why so many people who hate red pill associate every single influencer with mysogyny when it relates to traditional values and etc.

Hamza states all the time that it's degenerate behavior to want to sleep with multiple different girls. Maybe this was from years ago when he was very early on into the self improvement stuff, but this just isn't what he promotes at all.

He doesn't post videos flexing or being like Andrew Tate, he posts hour long videos going into tips on how to focus, discipline, and other topics.

When he speaks of a girlfriend, he talks about finding a girl who doesn't go out partying much and etc, mainly because he associates people who go out partying a lot and clubbing with degenerates, but that's just the guys preference in girls at the end of the day.

He even talked about how lust is a bad thing and he used to be consumed by it, telling a story of how he was caught having sex with a girl a year ago outside late at night and how embarrassing it was and how he was getting extorted by the guard and ended up just running away. He felt extremely disappointed in himself

Title	Hamza made me miserable
Author	luvem_aa
Upvotes	141
Comments	65
Date	February 12, 2023 7:08 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/ExRedPill
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